05 Sep 16
Originally posted by twhiteheadI believe the term is empty suit.
A common misunderstanding of evolution is to assume (without warrant) that genetic advantage is a good thing.
As for the overall post, I would say that how you measure power depends on context. In many ways Obama is not the most powerful person in the world. By other measurements money = power so the wealthier people are the most powerful (and Obama is ...[text shortened]... Wealth means more choice over how you live your life. Obama's life is actually very constrained.
All you have to do is sell out.
05 Sep 16
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Originally posted by SuzianneI think you are proving my point, neither money nor power do anything good or bad on
No, not even that.
I'm sure you're familiar with this quote: "For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows." -- 1 Timothy 6:10, KJV
Notice it says "the love of money", not simply "money". Similarly, power does not bring corruption ...[text shortened]... desires more power[/i]. What brings corruption is not just having power, but wanting it.
their own it is only those who use and abuse them that will. The thing is that getting
either doesn't change anything an honest man will return a wallet filled with money if he
can, while a dishonest one will not.
Power and money will show corruption, the more there is the easier it is to see, absolute
power will show the corruption absolutely.
There are people in power that hold true not allowing their ability to abuse give them the
feeling they have to right too, while others the more power they have the more they use
it to acquire whatever they want. We do tend to see those with wealth and power as
corrupt since I think more of them are than not, but that does not mean that everyone with
either has been corrupted by either in my opinion which disproves that power corrupts.
05 Sep 16
Originally posted by KellyJayI think the key is serving verses being served.
I think you are proving my point, neither money nor power do anything good or bad on
their own it is only those who use and abuse them that will. The thing is that getting
either doesn't change anything an honest man will return a wallet filled with money if he
can, while a dishonest one will not.
Power and money will show corruption, the more there i ...[text shortened]... one with
either has been corrupted by either in my opinion which disproves that power corrupts.
Those with power who serve typically do good as where those who enter politics for a lavish lifestyle and retirement do very little if any good.
This is why we need term limits.
05 Sep 16
Originally posted by whodeyPower corrupts. End of story.
I think the key is serving verses being served.
Those with power who serve typically do good as where those who enter politics for a lavish lifestyle and retirement do very little if any good.
This is why we need term limits.
From an early age you learn that the more power you have the more you can do what you want.
No matter how well balanced you are, the more you get what you want, the less you care what others want.
It's a creeping seductive addiction. Without being checked, the more powerful you become, the more ego-centric you become.
The more so, the more liberties you'll take to get what you want.
From the stance: "I want that" grows: "I deserve that"
Google it.
Then perhaps the discussion will be backed by some evidence.
For example: http://changingminds.org/explanations/power/power_corrupts.htm
06 Sep 16
Originally posted by shavixmirHow do you know power corrupts, end of story? How do you know it simply just shows us
Power corrupts. End of story.
From an early age you learn that the more power you have the more you can do what you want.
No matter how well balanced you are, the more you get what you want, the less you care what others want.
It's a creeping seductive addiction. Without being checked, the more powerful you become, the more ego-centric you become.
Th ...[text shortened]... by some evidence.
For example: http://changingminds.org/explanations/power/power_corrupts.htm
the corruption already within? I also don't think everyone with power abuses it, you do?
06 Sep 16
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Originally posted by KellyJayWe all have power, that is, to make decisions.
How do you know power corrupts, end of story? How do you know it simply just shows us
the corruption already within? I also don't think everyone with power abuses it, you do?
The question becomes, are these decisions selfish or not? If they are selfish, who is suffering as a result?
From a Christian perspective, we invoke the blood of the cross to wash away our sin nature and self regulate.
From a secular humanistic perspective, you pass a myriad of laws and institute PC to try and compel people to try and do the "right" thing. They don't care so much about wanting others to do the right thing as they are threatening them.
One approach celebrates freedom as a necessary criteria to share the love of God or to reject him and the other approach detests freedom in general and wishes the government to control us all.