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@AverageJoe1 saidAJ: China has no cards, Trump has the leverage.
NOW you tell me!!! Hey, aren't you the one who was saying DOGE aint found nothing? They are up to $150B at the moment, this would go towards free money to your son to pay off the money he borrowed to go to college.
The word CHAOS has been worked into the weak liberals' talking points. They are all using that word today, amazing. Sorry you've no confidence in what ...[text shortened]... ining elections anytime soon.
Entertain us with a make-believe report on President Kamala Harris.
Then how come Trump just exempted their #1 export to the US from his tariffs? Consumer electronics is the category they are most dependent on to sell to the US, making up 22% of their overseas market. https://www.visualcapitalist.com/visualizing-chinas-dependence-on-u-s-trade/
Yet he buckled just like I predicted he would.
@no1marauder saidIt is acceptable in times like this to use words that mostly suit your points. Y'all like to say 'buckled, as it gives a negative impression of his actions. I think for a Trump-hater, that that is a perfect verb for you to use for his daily considerations and jockeying with the country of China. You can hardly expect that this was going to be a cake walk. Did. you think that this was going to be a cake walk, Marauder?
AJ: China has no cards, Trump has the leverage.
Then how come Trump just exempted their #1 export to the US from his tariffs? Consumer electronics is the category they are most dependent on to sell to the US, making up 22% of their overseas market. https://www.visualcapitalist.com/visualizing-chinas-dependence-on-u-s-trade/
Yet he buckled just like I predicted he would.
So , with the next move of Xi will come a different position that Trump might take. Like If Trump says ..."OK, I will drop it to 100%,", then Xi will do something, and so forth.
It is called negotiating. I told my granny that I would sell a rental property for $100k. After negotiations, I settled for $95K. You libs would have 20 words for that, even the work LIE, since I lied to my granny!!
Relax, man, and pray he pulls all this off..
@AverageJoe1 saidTrump surrendered his biggest card without getting anything in return.
It is acceptable in times like this to use words that mostly suit your points. Y'all like to say 'buckled, as it gives a negative impression of his actions. I think for a Trump-hater, that that is a perfect verb for you to use for his daily considerations and jockeying with the country of China. You can hardly expect that this was going to be a cake walk. Did. you thi ...[text shortened]... hat, even the work LIE, since I lied to my granny!!
Relax, man, and pray he pulls all this off..
That's not "negotiating".
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@no1marauder saidYou are saying, without knowing , that the negotiation is thus at a standstill?!?!? That it ends now? That Xi won? That what??
Trump surrendered his biggest card without getting anything in return.
That's not "negotiating".
And you are sahing that if I negotiate with a house purchaser, and he walks away, that we did not negotiate??
@AverageJoe1 saidWhat "negotiation"? Trump unilaterally ended any tariffs on a sizeable share of China's exports to the US and got zero in return leaving the Chinese to gloat about his surrender:
You are saying, without knowing , that the negotiation is thus at a standstill?!?!? That it ends now? That Xi won? That what??
"Smartphones, laptop computers, memory chips and other electronics will be exempt from President Trump’s so-called reciprocal tariffs, another step back that could ease some consumer concerns about an immediate jump in costs for tech products imported from China.
New guidance published late Friday by U.S. Customs and Border Protection also exempts machines used to create semiconductors, plus products including computer monitors, tablets, Apple watches and computers from the tariffs Trump imposed in his April 2 executive order, which mandated levies of 10% of the value of almost all U.S. imports, and set higher rates on imports from some countries. Trump later boosted the level of these reciprocal tariffs on China to 125%, and issued a 90-day pause on tariffs above 10% for other countries.
In all, 20 categories of products are affected. The biggest impact is on imports from China, because of the heights to which tariff rates had risen in recent days. In addition to the reciprocal tariffs, the Trump administration has imposed tariffs of 20% on Chinese imports over that nation’s role in the fentanyl trade, which the White House said aren’t subject to the exemptions.
“This represents a small step by the U.S. in correcting its erroneous unilateral approach,” said a statement from China’s ministry of commerce."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/trump-exempts-smartphones-other-electronics-from-chinese-tariffs/ar-AA1CNFBq?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=4553ad01987a4440953dd53f95a9bc49&ei=19
Xi was supposed to come begging according to you.
From that Wall Street Journal article:
"Earlier, administration officials said that the tariffs on China would encourage the manufacturing of electronics in the U.S. Commerce secretary Howard Lutnick last Sunday told CBS News that “great American workers” would build and operate new factories in the U.S. and an “army of millions and millions of human beings screwing in little screws to make iPhones, that kind of thing, is going to come to America.”
On Saturday, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said that “President Trump has made it clear America cannot rely on China to manufacture critical technologies such as semiconductors, chips, smartphones, and laptops.” She added, “Companies are hustling to onshore their manufacturing in the United States as soon as possible.”
LMAO!
@no1marauder saidDont go off subject, please. Spose to come begging? He may yet. Are you going to suggest that there would not be give-and-take in negotiating?? Oh, please. Next, we will have one of the countries say that they hate us and will just stop doing business with us. You will write ""OMG, Trump has lost! Trump was supposed to get every country!!!""
What "negotiation"? Trump unilaterally ended any tariffs on a sizeable share of China's exports to the US and got zero in return leaving the Chinese to gloat about his surrender:
"Smartphones, laptop computers, memory chips and other electronics will be exempt from President Trump’s so-called reciprocal tariffs, another step back that could ease some consumer concerns ...[text shortened]... msn&cvid=4553ad01987a4440953dd53f95a9bc49&ei=19
Xi was supposed to come begging according to you.
You smack of Sonhouse!!!!!! Did you see where SHouse says that Trump is planning to totally decimate SS?
Y'all wear us out. Spruce called me an illegal if I run a red light. It is just too much. I am off to church. Will leave my phone at home!
@AverageJoe1 said"Off-subject"? The title of the thread is "Primer on Trump negotiation".
Dont go off subject, please. Spose to come begging? He may yet. Are you going to suggest that there would not be give-and-take in negotiating?? Oh, please. Next, we will have one of the countries say that they hate us and will just stop doing business with us. You will write ""OMG, Trump has lost! Trump was supposed to get every country!!!""
You smack of Sonhou ...[text shortened]... legal if I run a red light. It is just too much. I am off to church. Will leave my phone at home!
His "negotiations" with China so far seem to consist of making idle threats he quickly caves in on when he realizes the implementation of said threats would seriously harm US rich folks.
@AverageJoe1 said
NOW you tell me!!! Hey, aren't you the one who was saying DOGE aint found nothing? They are up to $150B at the moment, this would go towards free money to your son to pay off the money he borrowed to go to college.
The word CHAOS has been worked into the weak liberals' talking points. They are all using that word today, amazing. Sorry you've no confidence in what ...[text shortened]... ining elections anytime soon.
Entertain us with a make-believe report on President Kamala Harris.
Hey, aren't you the one who was saying DOGE aint found nothing?
Zero waste, zero fraud.
All the $150 billion in spending that you say DOGE "found" was congressionally-authorized. There is not a single example of fraud that DOGE has found that can be verified. THey are just making stuff up.
@no1marauder saidYou say there is no negotiation. Since you say that, when there certainly is negotiation, it rends your post to be totally off subject, about a negotiation, which is in fact going on.
"Off-subject"? The title of the thread is "Primer on Trump negotiation".
His "negotiations" with China so far seem to consist of making idle threats he quickly caves in on when he realizes the implementation of said threats would seriously harm US rich folks.
Whew. Anyway, off subject or not, your post is meaningless. Get with it man.
, And once again, you nitpick and second guess the strategy that Trump is performing. Like, if he is supposed to call Xi on Tuesday, but he does not call Xi, , you would immediately holler foul. He is screwed up! He should have called Ci!! He didn’t !! that means he is not negotiating blah, blah, blah blah.
Really. Pick it up a notch.
Once again, like I mentioned last week, all y’all like to do is to comment on the personal ways that Trump handles things, like you are some sort of an expert on how he handles things. You never discussed the meat of the matter. Boy you will be soon , I guarantee you that.
@wildgrass saidCongressionally authorized is quite irrelevant. They also authorize many other programs that are wasting government money. (It is our money, but I defer to Sue who says it is government money).Hey, aren't you the one who was saying DOGE aint found nothing?
Zero waste, zero fraud.
All the $150 billion in spending that you say DOGE "found" was congressionally-authorized. There is not a single example of fraud that DOGE has found that can be verified. THey are just making stuff up.
So, you will soon see what he has found, and cool your jets.
Congressionally authorized. Oh, please
@AverageJoe1 saidYou say he has found it in one post and in the next you say I will soon see. Which is it? Where's the fraud he has found? One verifiable example ...
Congressionally authorized is quite irrelevant. They also authorize many other programs that are wasting government money. (It is our money, but I defer to Sue who says it is government money).
So, you will soon see what he has found, and cool your jets.
Congressionally authorized. Oh, please
@AverageJoe1 saidIf you try to make a laptop in the US, you have to import all the components at 125% tariffs.
You say there is no negotiation. Since you say that, when there certainly is negotiation, it rends your post to be totally off subject, about a negotiation, which is in fact going on.
Whew. Anyway, off subject or not, your post is meaningless. Get with it man.
, And once again, you nitpick and second guess the strategy that Trump is performing. Like, if he is suppos ...[text shortened]... les things. You never discussed the meat of the matter. Boy you will be soon , I guarantee you that.
Or you could make it in China and ship it here for free.
And this policy is supposed to bring back manufacturing???
@AverageJoe1 saidJust stop lying. God, you are exhausting. I guess this is similarly how Trump gets away with spewing constant lies. We don't have time to call him out on every single one.
My post does not mention Trump Suzianne. (the one starting with 'I am in recycling'😉. And I do not say Trump is taken adavantage of. Our nanny state USA has been taken advantage of. Can't you read plain english!! (oops, sorry)
You seemingly want to discuss if Trump has a friend. I guess we would have to be friends to know if he has any. But that is not the iss ...[text shortened]... uld tit his tat.
This was not a premise, Suzianne. I posted a link of fact. Are you mad at me?
@AverageJoe1 said"Any day now."
Congressionally authorized is quite irrelevant. They also authorize many other programs that are wasting government money. (It is our money, but I defer to Sue who says it is government money).
So, you will soon see what he has found, and cool your jets.
Congressionally authorized. Oh, please