7ate9 appears to be posting from New Zealand, though - the Anglo-American penal system is prone to privatization anyway, it isn't just the state: the NOMs agenda here (the much-lauded/derided fusion of the probation and prison service) is linked into another infiltration stream of privatization. In a sense, this is inevitable because courts are more punitive everywhere, and while prisons are proportionately cheaper than social services, the easiest way to fund more prisons is to cut prison officer pay - which private prisons usually do. Of course, this is all made ridiculous by the staff shortages prisons suffer from - but most home offices/ministries of the Interior are ridiculous anyway.
Originally posted by AmauroteThe Silent System is more economical in terms of prison staffing and eliminates violence among inmates who tend to become more docile given time to reflect on their misdeeds.
7ate9 appears to be posting from New Zealand, though - the Anglo-American penal system is prone to privatization anyway, it isn't just the state: the NOMs agenda here (the much-lauded/derided fusion of the probation and prison service) is linked into another infiltration stream of privatization. In a sense, this is inevitable because courts are more puniti ...[text shortened]... s prisons suffer from - but most home offices/ministries of the Interior are ridiculous anyway.
Originally posted by NargagunaActually, even in those terms it would be horribly ineffective: constant observation is incredibly labour-intensive, which is why the ACCT system is so stressful to prison officers and inmates alike, and as for docility and reflection upon misdeeds - if you stick a mask over someone's head and push them into a dark room, the thing they're going to reflect most upon is what they'd like to do to you when they get out. Anger feeds anger. If you really want reflection upon misdeeds, look at the work at HMP Grendon and the various SOTP programmes out there - they're far from perfect but their success rate is at least debatable.
The Silent System is more economical in terms of prison staffing and eliminates violence among inmates who tend to become more docile given time to reflect on their misdeeds.
Originally posted by AmauroteWhere does constant observation come into the scenario? Solitary confinenment certainly requres more prison accommodation but fewer staff.
Actually, even in those terms it would be horribly ineffective: constant observation is incredibly labour-intensive, which is why the ACCT system is so stressful to prison officers and inmates alike, and as for docility and reflection upon misdeeds - if you stick a mask over someone's head and push them into a dark room, the thing they're going to reflect m ...[text shortened]... rogrammes out there - they're far from perfect but their success rate is at least debatable.
Originally posted by NargagunaAny prison built on the premise of compulsion rather than consent (and like it or not, that social compact governs nearly all prisons in the West) requires more staffing than a prison governed on the basis of the messy compromise we see today: the Silent System is additionally based on the principle of knowing that inmates aren't fraternizing - and for that you need constant observation to guarantee it. QED.
Where does constant observation come into the scenario? Solitary confinenment certainly requres more prison accommodation but fewer staff.
Ask yourself this: why wasn't the Silent System maintained? It was abolished because it was filling the streets with maniacs. Place that in a modern setting and you'd need to expand social services and the police force to cope with the effects. If YOIs and prisons are schools of crime now, the Silent System prisons were factories for psychopaths - if you want to break the criminogenic chain, this isn't the way to go about it. On the other hand, if inflicting pain without any thought for the consequences is the aim, this is definitely the best model.
Originally posted by 7ate9Why are you blaming everyone but yourself for your behaviour? Bit of a victim mentality thing going on there.
i know a lot of deaths have occured because of drink-drivers, but if proper statistics were taken, it would clearly show that the drunk-drivers who have accidents are usually ones showing off or too drunk to walk. i was a far worse driver at the time when i was working two jobs and only getting a few hours sleep. i drove off the road a couple of times then, bu ...[text shortened]... they give up trying to be my god. what they done leaves me little options in life.
Lots of people who have had a hard life don't break the law. Accept the punishment and learn from it.
After getting curious about how many accidents are caused by alcohol.
The results are a bit old (1993) but I doubt it would have changed much. From the ABS.
1956 people dead.
21602 people hospitalised.
29% of fatalities had a BAC over the legal limit.
22% of hospitalisations had a BAC over the legal limit.
567 people die, and 4722 people hospitalised in 1 year because of drinking and driving.