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Originally posted by STANG
I don't believe in evil. We are all human. If we don't want violence then we need to learn how to get along. Now is the time to learn. Violence leads to more violence. Within 50 to 100 years, it will likely lead to annihlation.
I believe there is evil. I believe violence is OK sometimes.Some of us are human, some not. If you don't want violence then you need to leave me alone. Now is the time to learn. Violence sometimes leads to more violence. Within 50 to 100 years i'll be dead regardless ... so will you.
Regardless, evil will survive and sometime thrive as long as men walk the earth. Evil doesn't need you or me to "believe in" it. If you are human, as you say we all are, then you are capable of evil. It's in you, it's one of the things that define you as being human. The idea of life is to deal with good/evil by the decisions you make. Not "believing in" evil as a way of life is a good thing. To deny evil exists is stupid and dangerous. Evil must be confronted and layed in the open light for all to see, not rationalized or denied.

A liberal is a conservative .. that hasn't been mugged yet.

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Originally posted by sasquatch672
That was clear, consise, persuasive, and well thought out.

And a complete waste of time with this guy.
thats what I was just thinking

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Originally posted by sasquatch672
That was clear, consise, persuasive, and well thought out.

And a complete waste of time with this guy.
Actually it was a bunch of incoherent cliches. The basis of all right wing "thought".

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Actually it was a bunch of incoherent cliches. The basis of all right wing "thought".
The line from Shakespeare about people who "doth protest too much" is true. People who are rabidly anti-anything are fighting against the temptation in themselves. But instead of changing themselves, they try to change others.

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Originally posted by xs
The line from Shakespeare about people who "doth protest too much" is true. People who are rabidly anti-anything are fighting against the temptation in themselves. But instead of changing themselves, they try to change others.
WOW, how incredibly deep!

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Originally posted by xs
The line from Shakespeare about people who "doth protest too much" is true. People who are rabidly anti-anything are fighting against the temptation in themselves. But instead of changing themselves, they try to change others.
Who are you trying to change with that comment ?

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Originally posted by STANG
Who are you trying to change with that comment ?
Stang my man,
you're a square peg in a world full of round holes.

I request no change.

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Originally posted by sasquatch672
[b]I believe there is evil.

I don't see anything wrong with this.

I believe violence is OK sometimes.

I don't see anything wrong with this, either. Sometimes it is ok.

Some of us are human, some not.
...[text shortened]... s can figure it out if you want. If you don't, that's okay too.[/b]
Totally agree with you there- especially on the point of If you don't want violence then you need to leave me alone. This so very true.

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Originally posted by Canadaguy
Totally agree with you there- especially on the point of [b]If you don't want violence then you need to leave me alone. This so very true.[/b]
Osama thought so.

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Originally posted by sasquatch672
[b/]I believe there is evil.

I don't see anything wrong with this.

I believe violence is OK sometimes.

I don't see anything wrong with this, either. Sometimes it is ok.

Some of us are human, some not.
...[text shortened]... can figure it out if you want. If you don't, that's okay too.[/b/]
"Some of us are human; some are not"? Are there Klingons living on your block????

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Originally posted by sasquatch672
[b]I believe there is evil.

I don't see anything wrong with this.

I believe violence is OK sometimes.

I don't see anything wrong with this, either. Sometimes it is ok.

Some of us are human, some not.

I would change "some to read "most" or even "the vast majority of", but other than that, this is ok.

If you ...[text shortened]... not fixing the post. You guys can figure it out if you want. If you don't, that's okay too.
Thanks ... I think.

These are only opinions. I don't claim to have many absolte answers .. some, but not many.

I agree .. "MOST of us are human, some are not." would have been more clear.
Percentagewise, few fall into the "not human" catagory. Those that do IMO are those that don't have a conscience. For lack of a better word, i'll call them sub-human. They reside in human form yet are not. The conscience is necessary to being "human", You and I know who these beings are when we see them .. it's that obvious.
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The "then you need to leave me alone" thing means .. I don't like violence either, but i'll protect what's mine. Violence has it's place. I won't start it, but I won't roll over for you either .. "violence is sometimes the (proper) answer."
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The "now is the time to learn." is my way of saying to STANG .. you have a lot to learn, start now.
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The Liberal vs Conservative argument is over in America. It was answered when we elect a dolt like Bush over the "I surrender" Kerry. The liberals (Democrat Party) imploded and is, sadly, now dead as a doorknob. It was suciede IMO.Way, way too far Euro-Left for the mainstream American. It sells in Hollywood and NY City, the media, movies and music and with Liberal Arts Profs., but when Joe6pack goes to the polls it's ...no thanks.
I concider myself an independent, like most Americans. I vote for 'the lesser of two evils" as they say. We don't get much of a choice. We didn't have any at all this past election.

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Originally posted by jammer
Thanks ... I think.

These are only opinions. I don't claim to have many absolte answers .. some, but not many.

I agree .. "MOST of us are human, some are not." would have been more clear.
Percentagewise, few fall into the "not human" catagory. Those that do IMO are those that don't have a conscience. For lack of a better word, i'll call them sub ...[text shortened]... ls" as they say. We don't get much of a choice. We didn't have any at all this past election.
What does any of that ACTUALLY mean?? In your first post, you said being able to do evil was part of being human but now you say some really evil people aren't human at all?? Nonsense.

"I surrender" Kerry? Didn't he vote for and support the War in Iraq? Didn't he actually fight in a war? What does your label mean?

The Democratic Party has hurt itself by losing its working class mentality and becoming another big money party like the Republicans, but to say they're "dead as a doorknob" defies commonsense and history. The Republican electoral majority is thin, far thinner than the overwhelmingly majorities the Democrats had in say, the mid-70's. One big issue can turn around a Congress; the Republicans in the 80's thought they had built an enduring majority but Clinton and the Congressional elections in 1992 refuted that. The same thing could happen in 2006 and 2008.