01 Apr 22
@vivify saidFor starters, I guess he can try to do it. I don't remember past history very much, what happened in Trump's case, did he try and get officially turned down, with the subpoenas going forward?
If the House tries to subpoena Biden for any wrongdoing, should he be allowed to block congressional subpoenas like Trump did?
Would Biden have the same outcome, is that your question? I think it would depend on the findings, the offense, the nature of the problem. They are surely going to be different 'infractions'.
01 Apr 22
@averagejoe1 saidYeah if he doesn’t comply with the subpoenas then there will not be any
For starters, I guess he can try to do it. I don't remember past history very much, what happened in Trump's case, did he try and get officially turned down, with the subpoenas going forward?
Would Biden have the same outcome, is that your question? I think it would depend on the findings, the offense, the nature of the problem. They are surely going to be different 'infractions'.
“ the findings, the offense, the nature of the problem.”
Because subpoenas are a way of gathering evidence concerning “ the offense, the nature of the problem.”
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01 Apr 22
@kevcvs57 saidI guess. Maybe a little more parsing would be in order?
Yeah if he doesn’t comply with the subpoenas then there will not be any
“ the findings, the offense, the nature of the problem.”
Because subpoenas are a way of gathering evidence concerning “ the offense, the nature of the problem.”
Silly billy
01 Apr 22
@vivify saidHe should be allowed to assert executive privilege if he so chooses (though that has a cost politically, which he would and should have to pay). He has every right to have the issue of whether anything subpoenaed is protected litigated in federal court.
If the House tries to subpoena Biden for any wrongdoing, should he be allowed to block congressional subpoenas like Trump did?
As with any other subpoena, it's your right to try to quash it legally. If the courts rule that you must produce the information, that's another story.
Every President ever has taken this position. Partisans simply argue it's bad when the other guy does it.
On The West Wing, Bartlett's AG says they're never claiming executive privilege in an investigation into a Presidential scandal... one of the many West Wing plots that will never happen in real life (like solving social security in one episode and hiring the other-party candidate you just beat as your Secretary of State).
01 Apr 22
@averagejoe1 saidYeah, I can see why the OP made you think of that.
Off subject, can anyone apprise us of the physical makeup of the trans-swimmer, was there asex change operation? I find it impossible to weigh in on this, is he a physically-equipped male or is he no longer?
@mott-the-hoople saidhttps://abcnews.go.com/Politics/congressional-subpoena-impeachment-probe/story?id=66586558
Trump didnt block any legal subpoenas
Trump ignored Congressional subpoenas and ordered others to do the same.
If Biden is ever subpoenaed, is it okay for him to do the same as Trump?
01 Apr 22
@vivify saidY0u, or I, would exercise any defense available to us. What is your beef, then?
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/congressional-subpoena-impeachment-probe/story?id=66586558
Trump ignored Congressional subpoenas and ordered others to do the same.
If Biden is ever subpoenaed, is it okay for him to do the same as Trump?
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@vivify saidThis came up during Watergate....
If the House tries to subpoena Biden for any wrongdoing, should he be allowed to block congressional subpoenas like Trump did?
There seems to be a gentleman's agreement.
No President will be subpoenaed while in office.
Impeachment is different...............5th Amendment.
https://meaww.com/subpoena-trump-lawyers-ex-potus-not-testify-second-impeachment-trial-lawyers-pr-stunt
01 Apr 22
@averagejoe1 saidIgnoring Congressional subpoenas is not legal; if Trump weren't hiding behind the presidency he'd face fines and imprisonment.
Y0u, or I, would exercise any defense available to us. What is your beef, then?
But forget all that; if Biden does the same as Trump did and uses his president to block investigation, will you defend Biden doing so like you're doing Trump?
01 Apr 22
@sh76 saidhttps://abcnews.go.com/Politics/congressional-subpoena-impeachment-probe/story?id=66586558
He should be allowed to assert executive privilege if he so chooses (though that has a cost politically, which he would and should have to pay). He has every right to have the issue of whether anything subpoenaed is protected litigated in federal court.
As with any other subpoena, it's your right to try to quash it legally. If the courts rule that you must produce the informa ...[text shortened]... urity in one episode and hiring the other-party candidate you just beat as your Secretary of State).
Trump ignored Congressional subpoenas and ordered others to do the same. That's not "executive privilege" that's exploiting immunity from crime.
01 Apr 22
@sh76 saidYeah you're talking about legal options but the Trump crew was straight up ignoring subpoenas, which is illegal.
He should be allowed to assert executive privilege if he so chooses (though that has a cost politically, which he would and should have to pay). He has every right to have the issue of whether anything subpoenaed is protected litigated in federal court.
As with any other subpoena, it's your right to try to quash it legally. If the courts rule that you must produce the informa ...[text shortened]... urity in one episode and hiring the other-party candidate you just beat as your Secretary of State).
04 Apr 22
@wildgrass saidIgnoring vs. asserting executive privilege is a distinction without a difference.
Yeah you're talking about legal options but the Trump crew was straight up ignoring subpoenas, which is illegal.
Either way, the party issuing the subpoena is tasked with bringing a motion to compel production and you can then fight it out in court.