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If the House tries to subpoena Biden for any wrongdoing, should he be allowed to block congressional subpoenas like Trump did?


@vivify said
If the House tries to subpoena Biden for any wrongdoing, should he be allowed to block congressional subpoenas like Trump did?
For starters, I guess he can try to do it. I don't remember past history very much, what happened in Trump's case, did he try and get officially turned down, with the subpoenas going forward?
Would Biden have the same outcome, is that your question? I think it would depend on the findings, the offense, the nature of the problem. They are surely going to be different 'infractions'.

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@averagejoe1 said
For starters, I guess he can try to do it. I don't remember past history very much, what happened in Trump's case, did he try and get officially turned down, with the subpoenas going forward?
Would Biden have the same outcome, is that your question? I think it would depend on the findings, the offense, the nature of the problem. They are surely going to be different 'infractions'.
Yeah if he doesn’t comply with the subpoenas then there will not be any
“ the findings, the offense, the nature of the problem.”
Because subpoenas are a way of gathering evidence concerning “ the offense, the nature of the problem.”
Silly billy


@kevcvs57 said
Yeah if he doesn’t comply with the subpoenas then there will not be any
“ the findings, the offense, the nature of the problem.”
Because subpoenas are a way of gathering evidence concerning “ the offense, the nature of the problem.”
Silly billy
I guess. Maybe a little more parsing would be in order?


Off subject, can anyone apprise us of the physical makeup of the trans-swimmer, was there asex change operation? I find it impossible to weigh in on this, is he a physically-equipped male or is he no longer?

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@vivify said
If the House tries to subpoena Biden for any wrongdoing, should he be allowed to block congressional subpoenas like Trump did?
Trump didnt block any legal subpoenas

This committee is not operating legally


@vivify said
If the House tries to subpoena Biden for any wrongdoing, should he be allowed to block congressional subpoenas like Trump did?
He should be allowed to assert executive privilege if he so chooses (though that has a cost politically, which he would and should have to pay). He has every right to have the issue of whether anything subpoenaed is protected litigated in federal court.

As with any other subpoena, it's your right to try to quash it legally. If the courts rule that you must produce the information, that's another story.

Every President ever has taken this position. Partisans simply argue it's bad when the other guy does it.

On The West Wing, Bartlett's AG says they're never claiming executive privilege in an investigation into a Presidential scandal... one of the many West Wing plots that will never happen in real life (like solving social security in one episode and hiring the other-party candidate you just beat as your Secretary of State).


@averagejoe1 said
Off subject, can anyone apprise us of the physical makeup of the trans-swimmer, was there asex change operation? I find it impossible to weigh in on this, is he a physically-equipped male or is he no longer?
Yeah, I can see why the OP made you think of that.

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@mott-the-hoople said
Trump didnt block any legal subpoenas
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/congressional-subpoena-impeachment-probe/story?id=66586558

Trump ignored Congressional subpoenas and ordered others to do the same.

If Biden is ever subpoenaed, is it okay for him to do the same as Trump?


@vivify said
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/congressional-subpoena-impeachment-probe/story?id=66586558

Trump ignored Congressional subpoenas and ordered others to do the same.

If Biden is ever subpoenaed, is it okay for him to do the same as Trump?
Y0u, or I, would exercise any defense available to us. What is your beef, then?

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@vivify said
If the House tries to subpoena Biden for any wrongdoing, should he be allowed to block congressional subpoenas like Trump did?
This came up during Watergate....
There seems to be a gentleman's agreement.
No President will be subpoenaed while in office.
Impeachment is different...............5th Amendment.
https://meaww.com/subpoena-trump-lawyers-ex-potus-not-testify-second-impeachment-trial-lawyers-pr-stunt


@averagejoe1 said
Y0u, or I, would exercise any defense available to us. What is your beef, then?
Ignoring Congressional subpoenas is not legal; if Trump weren't hiding behind the presidency he'd face fines and imprisonment.

But forget all that; if Biden does the same as Trump did and uses his president to block investigation, will you defend Biden doing so like you're doing Trump?


@sh76 said
He should be allowed to assert executive privilege if he so chooses (though that has a cost politically, which he would and should have to pay). He has every right to have the issue of whether anything subpoenaed is protected litigated in federal court.

As with any other subpoena, it's your right to try to quash it legally. If the courts rule that you must produce the informa ...[text shortened]... urity in one episode and hiring the other-party candidate you just beat as your Secretary of State).
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/congressional-subpoena-impeachment-probe/story?id=66586558

Trump ignored Congressional subpoenas and ordered others to do the same. That's not "executive privilege" that's exploiting immunity from crime.


@sh76 said
He should be allowed to assert executive privilege if he so chooses (though that has a cost politically, which he would and should have to pay). He has every right to have the issue of whether anything subpoenaed is protected litigated in federal court.

As with any other subpoena, it's your right to try to quash it legally. If the courts rule that you must produce the informa ...[text shortened]... urity in one episode and hiring the other-party candidate you just beat as your Secretary of State).
Yeah you're talking about legal options but the Trump crew was straight up ignoring subpoenas, which is illegal.


@wildgrass said
Yeah you're talking about legal options but the Trump crew was straight up ignoring subpoenas, which is illegal.
Ignoring vs. asserting executive privilege is a distinction without a difference.

Either way, the party issuing the subpoena is tasked with bringing a motion to compel production and you can then fight it out in court.