Is rap violent? Very often, yes.
Do we then blame rap for police targeting blacks? No.
Do we blame rap for cops killing men who were recorded being nonviolent? No.
Feel free to label rap violent and misogynistic; it is. But after decades of insanely violent action movies starring white actors, why don't you blame white media for mass shootings, serial killers, rape, etc.?
I propose we ban movies like Fight Club or any Quentin Tarentine movie that glorify not only violence, but misogyny against women. That's ban ever Schwarzenegger flick or any film with a white protagonist mowing down scores of bodies while being celebrated as a hero.
Remember that movie from Saturday Night Fever when Travolta's character tried to force himself on the lead female? Let's blame movies like that for rape. It's clearly James Bond's fault for the misogyny women face, isn't it? Or the decades of movies from white directors showing women as sex objects; blame them too.
Get the point? If you're okay with the violence and misogyny in white culture, shut up about rap. If you enjoy gangster movies, shut up about rap.
And above all, if you think it's silly to blame movies like Godfather, Scarface, Terminator, et. al for violence from whites, shut up about rap.
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Death metal is often violent and misogynist yet it brings joy and empowerment to fans
Death metal is a baffling genre to many people. The music is aggressive, the lyrics are often violent and misogynistic, and it has been blamed for inciting violent crimes such as rape and murder.
Cannibal Corpse, one of the most successful death metal bands, has sold over 2 million units worldwide and sings about topics such as murder, rape, torture, infanticide, decapitation and necrophilia.
It's amazing, when you think about it, that people were totally enthralled with the Godfather movies.
And the TV series The Sopranos, and all the mob related series and movies, simply accentuates it all.
I remember the movie 'Bonnie and Clyde' when I was a teen and how senselessly violent it was, yet
Bonnie and Clyde were cult heroes of sorts. What's it all mean...?
People like violence. Strange that.
@vivify saidRap music is an expression of ideas but music itself even if it discusses or glorifies violence isn't itself violent. However by constantly depicting the police as violent it may foster distrust of the police. Distrust and strain relations may lead to more violence towards police and by police. But I certainly wouldn't blame rap music for police brutality.
Is rap violent? Very often, yes.
Do we then blame rap for police targeting blacks? No.
Do we blame rap for cops killing men who were recorded being nonviolent? No.
Feel free to label rap violent and misogynistic; it is. But after decades of insanely violent action movies starring white actors, why don't you blame white media for mass shootings, serial kil ...[text shortened]... ame movies like Godfather, Scarface, Terminator, et. al for violence from whites, shut up about rap.
@quackquack saidThank you.
Rap music is an expression of ideas but music itself even if it discusses or glorifies violence isn't itself violent. However by constantly depicting the police as violent it may foster distrust of the police. Distrust and strain relations may lead to more violence towards police and by police. But I certainly wouldn't blame rap music for police brutality.
@vivify saidThe main difference is that Pulp Fiction and James Bond are not only brilliant, but firmly tongue in cheek. And rap music is utter crap.
Is rap violent? Very often, yes.
Do we then blame rap for police targeting blacks? No.
Do we blame rap for cops killing men who were recorded being nonviolent? No.
Feel free to label rap violent and misogynistic; it is. But after decades of insanely violent action movies starring white actors, why don't you blame white media for mass shootings, serial kil ...[text shortened]... ame movies like Godfather, Scarface, Terminator, et. al for violence from whites, shut up about rap.
And that’s “wrapped” this discussion up with a nice slap on the bottom.
@shavixmir saidTarantino's "Hateful Eight" was absolutely not "tongue-in-cheek". Whether you loved or hated it, it was a brutal film. Yet, no one blames Tarantino for any of society's ills.
The main difference is that Pulp Fiction and James Bond are not only brilliant, but firmly tongue in cheek.
James Bond? Here's a short mashup of clips showing sexist moments from the Bond films; included are two separate scenes where Bond forces himself on women who are clearly struggling to get away from him, at the 0:46 and 1:00 minute mark:
There's no way can you explain away those two scenes. But imagine if a rapper made a song about forcing himself on women and tried to claim it was "tongue-in-cheek".
@vivify saidI know Bond films off by heart. And each one is a gem of beauty.
Tarantino's "Hateful Eight" was absolutely not "tongue-in-cheek". Whether you loved or hated it, it was a brutal film. Yet, no one blames Tarantino for any of society's ills.
James Bond? Here's a short mashup of clips showing sexist moments from the Bond films; included are two separate scenes where Bond forces himself on women who are clearly struggling to get away fro ...[text shortened]... if a rapper made a song about forcing himself on women and tried to claim it was "tongue-in-cheek".
The hateful 8 was garbage.
And rap music sucks.
Rap music, movies and video games do not create violence on the street. There is no research proving the connection, as far as I know.
But you can’t whine about wanting equal rights on race basis, whilst at the same time singing about your ho’s and bitches.
Well, you can, it just makes you a hypocrite.
@shavixmir saidI agree with you on both points.
I know Bond films off by heart. And each one is a gem of beauty.
The hateful 8 was garbage.
Rap music, movies and video games do not create violence on the street. There is no research proving the connection, as far as I know.
But you can’t whine about wanting equal rights on race basis, whilst at the same time singing about your ho’s and bitches.
Well, you can, it just makes you a hypocrite.
I agree with you on both points here as well. I would add that even though it's hypocritical, it still shouldn't be used to shift blame away from police officers who abuse their power.