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Originally posted by lucifershammer
There is no unique (or preferred) centre of the universe (that's what your site says in the first line) in relativity - any point can be chosen as centre for a particular frame of reference. So, as I said earlier, it is not wrong to call the earth the centre of the Universe.

EDIT: Leave the science to the scientists. Stick to the law.

I can see no possible good coming from defining the Earth as the centre of the universe. Remember the biggest gravity well in the area is the Sun and in relation to the Earth it is moving. Suddenly you need all kinds of complex adjustment equations to allow for this.

Originally posted by twhitehead
Your apparent claim that they were correct is like a child crossing his fingers behind his back and claiming that that somehow negates his lies.

Nicely put.

Originally posted by XanthosNZ
I can see no possible good coming from defining the Earth as the centre of the universe. Remember the biggest gravity well in the area is the Sun and in relation to the Earth it is moving. Suddenly you need all kinds of complex adjustment equations to allow for this.

There is a very simple reason why defining the Earth as the centre would be preferred - because this is where we are. If the Earth were not chosen as the centre, we would have to adjust for a moving observer every time we try to process astronomical data.

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Nicely put.

Aren't you supposed to be on vacation?

Originally posted by lucifershammer
There is a very simple reason why defining the Earth as the centre would be preferred - because this is where we are. If the Earth were not chosen as the centre, we would have to adjust for a moving observer every time we try to process astronomical data.

It isn't really defining the Earth as the centre of the universe though, it is just defining the Earth as the frame of reference for the processing of astronomical data.

When I am walking inside a train that is moving. In working out how fast I am walking in the train, I don't define the train as being the centre of the universe.

Originally posted by lausey
It isn't really defining the Earth as the centre of the universe though, it is just defining the Earth as the frame of reference for the processing of astronomical data.

When I am walking inside a train that is moving. In working out how fast I am walking in the train, I don't define the train as being the centre of the universe.

From your frame of reference, in your coordinate system, the train is the centre of the Universe.

Originally posted by lucifershammer
From your frame of reference, in your coordinate system, the train is the centre of the Universe.

Gazing at my navel, I perceive that it is the centre of the Universe.

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Gazing at my navel, I perceive that it is the centre of the Universe.

If you define it to be the centre of a particular coordinate system you are using, then it is. That's basic coordinate geometry.

Originally posted by lucifershammer
If you define it to be the centre of a particular coordinate system you are using, then it is. That's basic coordinate geometry.

How do you think Galileo would have fared if he'd stood up and declared himself the centre of the Universe?

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
How do you think Galileo would have fared if he'd stood up and declared himself the centre of the Universe?

He was crazy enough to jump up and declare the Sun the centre of Universe (note that!) without providing evidence - but I doubt he was crazy enough to do what you suggest.

Originally posted by no1marauder
Not this crap again.

Oh no, not again .....

Originally posted by lucifershammer
He was crazy enough to jump up and declare the Sun the centre of Universe (note that!) without providing evidence - but I doubt he was crazy enough to do what you suggest.

Are you going to mention what happened next?

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
How do you think Galileo would have fared if he'd stood up and declared himself the centre of the Universe?

There are people who even today consider themselves the center of the universe. Take a look around ......

Originally posted by ivanhoe
There are people who even today consider themselves the center of the universe. Take a look around ......

Well, in light of LH's findings, they are perfectly correct.

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Well, in light of LH's findings, they are perfectly correct.

Of course, it's called liberalism ...... 😛 😵