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Riding the Manosphere all the way to White Nationalism

Riding the Manosphere all the way to White Nationalism

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https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2024/08/29/white-nationalist-male-supremacist-author-identified

White Nationalist and Male Supremacist Author Identified

by Hannah Gais, Megan Squire and Rachael Fugardi
August 29, 2024

"Hatewatch has identified a previously pseudonymous author and ideologue whose writings in the 2000s and early 2010s heavily influenced the “manosphere,” a loose network of blogs, forums, websites and influencers who support rolling back women’s rights, reject feminism and advocate for rigid gender roles."

Christopher Moore, 60, is a former academic who has written under the pen name “Francis Roger Devlin” or “F. Roger Devlin” since the early 2000s. He is the author of the highly influential 2006 essay “Sexual Utopia in Power” and a 2015 book by the same name. Both works argue that men are victimized by policies and other efforts to promote sexual and gender equality, which he argues have “made men less attractive to women” and “probably contributed significantly to the decline in Western birthrates.” White nationalists and more mainstream far-right figures have credited Moore’s work as Devlin with shaping the male supremacist movement, or “manosphere,” into what it is today.

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@Suzianne

Well, I should think that jerks ARE less attractive to women, but whose fault is that then? The women’s, or the jerks’ ?? DUH. ๐Ÿ™„

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@moonbus said
@Suzianne

Well, I should think that jerks ARE less attractive to women, but whose fault is that then? The women’s, or the jerks’ ?? DUH. ๐Ÿ™„
You should take a peek at the entire article. It talks about the rise of "incels" and the final push to white nationalism. Yes, some white nationalists are female (MTG, Lauren Boebert, Nancy Mace, Elise Stefanik and others**), but relatively few. The article describes white nationalism as an outgrowth of the male supremacy movement.

** https://www.vox.com/2021/1/15/22231079/capitol-riot-women-qanon-white-supremacy

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@Suzianne


I read the whole article. I am not in favor of outing the man, for the same reason I am not in favor of outing J K Rowling. They and their families are entitled to private lives. However, I do think their hare-brained theories (why jerks don’t find mates) need to be addressed in open debate.

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@Suzianne said
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2024/08/29/white-nationalist-male-supremacist-author-identified

White Nationalist and Male Supremacist Author Identified

by Hannah Gais, Megan Squire and Rachael Fugardi
August 29, 2024

[i]"Hatewatch has identified a previously pseudonymous author and ideologue whose writings in the 2000s and early 2010s heavily influenced the “m ...[text shortened]... st movement, or “manosphere,” into what it is today.

(Continued on the website at the link above)
๐Ÿ˜‚ there is no such thing as man or woman…damn catch up

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@Mott-The-Hoople said
๐Ÿ˜‚ there is no such thing as man or woman…damn catch up
Really?

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It’s actually white male supremacy.
Hence that incels and the alt-right movement have such a large a cross-over group.

It’s also logical, if your problem is that black people are diminishing your role in society, then it stands to reason that women do to.

And no, it doesn’t make them very attractive.

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@shavixmir said
It’s actually white male supremacy.
Hence that incels and the alt-right movement have such a large a cross-over group.

It’s also logical, if your problem is that black people are diminishing your role in society, then it stands to reason that women do to.

And no, it doesn’t make them very attractive.
Fact was, when a woman could not support herself, she often had to submit to a brutish jerk just to get a roof over her head (unless she was uncommonly pretty and got a lucky catch, or had inherited a vast estate). And she had to submit to sex whenever the brutish jerk wanted it (mercifully, it usually lasted only three minutes) — this was called conjugal duty, the Pauline concept of marriage. No one but brutish jerks thought that was a pleasant or sensible arrangement.

Fact is, society is evolving, gender roles are changing, women can now support themselves without having to marry brutish jerks. Only brutish jerks would think there is something wrong with this arrangement. They are understandably perplexed why modern women don‘t go for them, but they‘re pointing their fingers at all the wrong culprits. They should go find themselves trad-wives (yes, there are women who want the old role models).

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@moonbus said
Fact was, when a woman could not support herself, she often had to submit to a brutish jerk just to get a roof over her head (unless she was uncommonly pretty and got a lucky catch, or had inherited a vast estate). And she had to submit to sex whenever the brutish jerk wanted it (mercifully, it usually lasted only three minutes) — this was called conjugal duty, the Pauline co ...[text shortened]... rits. They should go find themselves trad-wives (yes, there are women who want the old role models).
I quite agree with your historic perspective.

And pleasantly surprised someone refers to the difference between Paul and John on this issue.

Well done!

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@shavixmir
Don't forget leviticus , a man is worth 50 shekels and a woman is worth 30. I think the full read meant how much you had to tithe or some such but it does say a woman is not the same value as a man.

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@shavixmir said
I quite agree with your historic perspective.

And pleasantly surprised someone refers to the difference between Paul and John on this issue.

Well done!
Agreed.

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@sonhouse said
@shavixmir
Don't forget leviticus , a man is worth 50 shekels and a woman is worth 30. I think the full read meant how much you had to tithe or some such but it does say a woman is not the same value as a man.
We can be consoled with knowing this is almost ancient history,

That was written c.3500 years ago.

Modern society is a bit more nuanced now. Troglodytes who still hold these views are now a minority. Thank goodness I work for a government that has made job discrimination based on race, color, age, gender, and/or sexual preference illegal.

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@moonbus said
@Suzianne


I read the whole article. I am not in favor of outing the man, for the same reason I am not in favor of outing J K Rowling. They and their families are entitled to private lives. However, I do think their hare-brained theories (why jerks don’t find mates) need to be addressed in open debate.
I think revealing the real name of an author espousing these views is legitimate.

Especially when they've spent their lives using a pseudonym to avoid backlash for holding these antiquated views.

Rowling is just as disagreeable, but at least she's always used her real name AFAIK.

Humans are better than this.

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@Suzianne said
I think revealing the real name of an author espousing these views is legitimate.

Especially when they've spent their lives using a pseudonym to avoid backlash for holding these antiquated views.

Rowling is just as disagreeable, but at least she's always used her real name AFAIK.

Humans are better than this.
ask shatmixer how he treats retarded folks?

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@Mott-The-Hoople
Yes, well he treats YOU pretty well considering.

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