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Riding the Manosphere all the way to White Nationalism

Riding the Manosphere all the way to White Nationalism

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@Suzianne said
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2024/08/29/white-nationalist-male-supremacist-author-identified

White Nationalist and Male Supremacist Author Identified

by Hannah Gais, Megan Squire and Rachael Fugardi
August 29, 2024

[i]"Hatewatch has identified a previously pseudonymous author and ideologue whose writings in the 2000s and early 2010s heavily influenced the “m ...[text shortened]... st movement, or “manosphere,” into what it is today.

(Continued on the website at the link above)
Many of these aggrieved men, in my experience, have spent much of their younger years playing video games instead of developing a healthy work ethic and the skills that employers look for. They leave work at 4:55...

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@Suzianne said
I think revealing the real name of an author espousing these views is legitimate.

Especially when they've spent their lives using a pseudonym to avoid backlash for holding these antiquated views.

Rowling is just as disagreeable, but at least she's always used her real name AFAIK.

Humans are better than this.
As I understand it, Ms Rowling (quite) famously said that she would not vote for the present British Prime Minister because he was unable to define what a woman is.

Is this the part of her ethos that you find disagreeable? It's a genuine question asked in the spirit of friendly discussion.

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@Indonesia-Phil said
As I understand it, Ms Rowling (quite) famously said that she would not vote for the present British Prime Minister because he was unable to define what a woman is.

Is this the part of her ethos that you find disagreeable? It's a genuine question asked in the spirit of friendly discussion.
Though I support trans rights I think the backlash against her is unwarranted.

Rowling's disagreements (as far as I know) never included hateful statements, calls to violence or discrimination. She merely disagrees and put forth her arguments. That, in of itself, does not deserve backlash.

Discussions of gay rights or race are pretty clear-cut. Neither are a choice; you're born that way. Trans rights are less tangible since it deals with abstract concepts like gender (not sex). So trans rights are a more difficult concept to understand.

People in favor of trans rights should be mindful of this.

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@Mott-The-Hoople said
ask shatmixer how he treats retarded folks?
As soon as you tell us how that is similar.

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@Indonesia-Phil said
As I understand it, Ms Rowling (quite) famously said that she would not vote for the present British Prime Minister because he was unable to define what a woman is.

Is this the part of her ethos that you find disagreeable? It's a genuine question asked in the spirit of friendly discussion.
It shows she's part of the very weird right.

Intolerance should not be tolerated.

These are people too.


@Suzianne said
It shows she's part of the very weird right.

Intolerance should not be tolerated.

These are people too.
"Intolerance should not be tolerated."

you summed up the entire left right there


@Mott-The-Hoople
Left right? Make up your mind.


@Indonesia-Phil said
As I understand it, Ms Rowling (quite) famously said that she would not vote for the present British Prime Minister because he was unable to define what a woman is.

Is this the part of her ethos that you find disagreeable? It's a genuine question asked in the spirit of friendly discussion.
It is actually an interesting issue.

Taken from the feminist perspective, there has been hundreds of years of toil and struggle for equal rights for women.
And the fight continues (as our incel friends on this forum frequently remind us).

Now comes along a new concept: that gender isn’t biologically defined, but is defined by how an individual sees ones self.

And within this new concept, the concept of womanhood as a thing is thrown out. Something women have been fighting generations to have equal rights for.

The obvious synthesis being that women and people who don’t believe in biological gender definitions, all should have equal rights.

But this new wave with a new definition of gender, doesn’t accept the synthesis. They claim that the feminist definition of womanhood is exclusive and discriminatory.

Which in turn leads feminists to dig deeper into the biological element of the definition of gender. Because they see a realistic trend that this new wave is going to break down woman’s rights which have been so hard fought.

To make the point less abstract:
Just because you build gender neutral toilets, doesn’t mean you should close woman-only toilets. Both have a role within society.


@shavixmir said
It is actually an interesting issue.

Taken from the feminist perspective, there has been hundreds of years of toil and struggle for equal rights for women.
And the fight continues (as our incel friends on this forum frequently remind us).

Now comes along a new concept: that gender isn’t biologically defined, but is defined by how an individual sees ones self.

And ...[text shortened]... neutral toilets, doesn’t mean you should close woman-only toilets. Both have a role within society.
“(as our incel friends on this forum frequently remind us).”

he doth complain too much 😉


I don't see a bridge funneling it together. Because there are many separatist peoples within the ideological forest you might call race-based nationalism. Southerners during the domestic war took on an identity they made known, and even then confederate nationalist varieties were a whole of contradictory parts. Left to their own which could turn on itself....

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@Suzianne said
It shows she's part of the very weird right.

Intolerance should not be tolerated.

These are people too.
I actually don't think this is a political issue; I have women in my immediate acquaintance from both sides of the political divide who espouse the feminist viewpoint so succinctly expressed by Mister Shavixmir, in another reply to my post.

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@shavixmir said
It is actually an interesting issue.

Taken from the feminist perspective, there has been hundreds of years of toil and struggle for equal rights for women.
And the fight continues (as our incel friends on this forum frequently remind us).

Now comes along a new concept: that gender isn’t biologically defined, but is defined by how an individual sees ones self.

And ...[text shortened]... neutral toilets, doesn’t mean you should close woman-only toilets. Both have a role within society.
As per my reply to Suzianne, succinctly put, it's a point of view I've heard expressed several times recently.

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