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In the US criminals have the right to walk into businesses and steal. If 50 criminals crash a store overpower the people in the store and do a mass robbery, nobody has the right to stop them, except the police.

People are not allowed to use weapons to stop the robbery.

Are the laws the same in all countries?

Personally, I believe once you commit a crime, the person you are offending should have the right to defend themselves and their property. But hey, I am not a criminal so I am not big on giving criminals the right to steal.

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@eladar said
In the US criminals have the right to walk into businesses and steal. If 50 criminals crash a store overpower the people in the store and do a mass robbery, nobody has the right to stop them, except the police.

People are not allowed to use weapons to stop the robbery.

Are the laws the same in all countries?

Personally, I believe once you commit a crime, the person y ...[text shortened]... their property. But hey, I am not a criminal so I am not big on giving criminals the right to steal.
How is your blurt an example of someone having the “right to steal”?

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@eladar said
In the US criminals have the right to walk into businesses and steal. If 50 criminals crash a store overpower the people in the store and do a mass robbery, nobody has the right to stop them, except the police.

People are not allowed to use weapons to stop the robbery.

Are the laws the same in all countries?

Personally, I believe once you commit a crime, the person y ...[text shortened]... their property. But hey, I am not a criminal so I am not big on giving criminals the right to steal.
There’s 50 of them how many weapons have the store owners got.
But are you sure the store owner cannot produce a gun and tell the robbers to leave. I can see why they can’t start shooting unarmed people for stealing.

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Don't worry, he is good at his bullshyte posts, he thinks he is an expert on all things.

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@kevcvs57 said
There’s 50 of them how many weapons have the store owners got.
But are you sure the store owner cannot produce a gun and tell the robbers to leave. I can see why they can’t start shooting unarmed people for stealing.
I don't know..an automatic weapon? Two or three pump shot guns?

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I rest my case.

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A mechanic is having his tools stolen at night. He could not stop it, police could do nothing, so he electrified his tool chest.

The guy breaks in, tries to steal the tools, but gets electrocuted and dies instead.

The mechanic gets put in jail for murder?

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@divegeester said
How is your blurt an example of someone having the “right to steal”?
Eladar...?

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@eladar said
A mechanic is having his tools stolen at night. He could not stop it, police could do nothing, so he electrified his tool chest.

The guy breaks in, tries to steal the tools, but gets electrocuted and dies instead.

The mechanic gets put in jail for murder?
Sure, why not.

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@divegeester said
Eladar...?
Lol, I already explained it. You cannot stop it. Look at the looters, nobody can stop them either. If I walk into your house kick the crap out of you and take something worthless from where you live, then you cannot stop me. You have nothing to stop a person who can over power you.

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
Sure, why not.
He did not murder the criminal.

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@eladar said
A mechanic is having his tools stolen at night. He could not stop it, police could do nothing, so he electrified hus tool chest.

The guy breaks in, tries to steal the tools, but gets electrocuted and dies instead.

The mechanic gets put in jail for murder?
Is this an hypothetical or an actual case. There's an actual case that's similar to this we can discuss; Katko v. Briney, 183 N.W.2d 657 (Iowa 1971).

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@deepthought said
Is this an hypothetical or an actual case. There's an actual case that's similar to this we can discuss; Katko v. Briney, 183 N.W.2d 657 (Iowa 1971).
Actual case I think, it was in a business law class that I took in high school.

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@eladar said
In the US criminals have the right to walk into businesses and steal. If 50 criminals crash a store overpower the people in the store and do a mass robbery, nobody has the right to stop them, except the police.

People are not allowed to use weapons to stop the robbery.

Are the laws the same in all countries?

Personally, I believe once you commit a crime, the person y ...[text shortened]... their property. But hey, I am not a criminal so I am not big on giving criminals the right to steal.
50 people crashing a store and helping themselves to the goods could happen anywhere.

Maybe the bigger question to be asked is ...
Why is this happening in America ?
And not anywhere else with anywhere near the same frequency ?

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@eladar said
Actual case I think, it was in a business law class that I took in high school.
Did you finish it? (Not the law class, - high school).

In the UK reasonable measures can be used to defend property.

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