Right Wingers: Don't Read this Article

That is if you went to hang on to all the fairy tales that the pundits at Fox News and elsewhere in the Nutosphere are feeding you about the Trump NYC trial and the legal issues involved.

For those not completely brainwashed already with a bit of curiosity and ten minutes or so of spare time, I strongly recommend this piece by Karen Friedman Agnifilo, an ex-prosecutor in the Manhattan DA's office: https://meidasnews.com/news/setting-the-record-straight-on-the-ny-election-interference-case-against-donald-trump

It debunks virtually all of the claims being made by the Jonathan Turleys, Gregg Jarrett, etc. etc. etc. of the world regarding the legal issues involved. I give one example:

"This argument is perplexing. Of course, this case is unprecedented since no President ever tried to steal an election before. The indictment in this case did not allege—and the jury was not instructed—that federal election laws were either the direct or the predicate crime.

Instead, Trump was charged with falsifying business records, which required an intent to defraud that included an intent to aid, commit, or conceal a violation of New York State Election Law. The state election law provision in question, which served as the predicate crime, was a conspiracy to unlawfully promote his own election.

Further, the above critique is not true. There have been several cases where a federal predicate was used for convictions in New York state court. Consider People v. Abedi, where defendants were charged with falsifying business records in the first degree, based on false statements or omissions they made on Federal Reserve forms. In that case, the defendants argued that the prosecution was not permitted to predicate the charges on false answers on a federal form, but the judge ruled against them."

Abedi is hardly a new or novel precedent; it was decided in 1993. https://casetext.com/case/people-v-abedi

There's lot of other good stuff in there, so have fun except for the Mott's, Earls, AJs and the rest who won't read it.

@no1marauder
Abedi must be as dumb as Trump.
I bedi is....

@no1marauder said
That is if you went to hang on to all the fairy tales that the pundits at Fox News and elsewhere in the Nutosphere are feeding you about the Trump NYC trial and the legal issues involved.

For those not completely brainwashed already with a bit of curiosity and ten minutes or so of spare time, I strongly recommend this piece by Karen Friedman Agnifilo, an ex-prosecutor ...[text shortened]... r good stuff in there, so have fun except for the Mott's, Earls, AJs and the rest who won't read it.

@Mott-The-Hoople
So you are telling that BS to an accredited New York attorney.
It MIGHT come as a surprise to you it is the flipping JURY that says someone is a felon or not based on the evidence and the crime involved.

Later the JUDGE says, based on the verdict of the jury, I now have the power to sentence you to whatever is lawful, from probation, community service, house arrest, or prison.
THAT IS UP TO ME, THE JUDGE.

When it comes up to the judge a felony conviction is FACT JACK which is the job of the Jury and NOBODY else. The judge does the sentence and that if the jury has found someone to be convicted which is the job of the jury.

I don't know which hole you crawled out of but you should go back in shame.
You MIGHT amend that stupid statement to say Trump has not been SENTENCED yet, come Jul7 11, that will be when he finds out which of the four possibilities will happen and that is up to the judge based on how for instance the defendant acts in court.

Liker, does he show or not show remorse, and whether the defendant has been held in contempt of court and the fact your orange psychopath got held in contempt TEN TIMES and just on that alone if it was you or I we would already be in jail but Trump has been treated with soft gloves the whole time.

Plus the fact he attacked the judge, the law clerks, the prosecutors, the judges DAUGHTER for crips sake. You or I with that record in court, we would be in jail the maximum allowed and in Trump's case, 34 convictions with a possible 4 years EACH if served separately puts him in the slammer for 136 years. He would only be a mere 213 years old....

As much as I would love to see that ahole in prison for a long time, he will probably get probation or maybe community service or maybe house arrest.
So rest easy, you god will not go to jail.

The fact he will only get probation shows clearly how he has been handled with kid gloves.

So don't EVEN go 'corrupt courts' and the rest of the BS puked out by Trump.
If the courts were so corrupt and the prosecutors were told by Biden to go after him, that is a lot of power in the hands of the POTUS.

If so, why would Biden not do the same and tell them to BACK OFF MY SON?
If the jury or judges find him guilty and he goes to jail, that BTW is a political attack in the first place, Hunter already had a deal but the Jim Jordan traitors and his buddies decided to pressure the courts BECAUSE he is Joe's son and for no other reason. THEY are the ones weaponizing the courts not Biden.

@Mott-The-Hoople said
legally Trump is not a convicted felon yet dumbass

@sonhouse said
@Mott-The-Hoople
So you are telling that BS to an accredited New York attorney.
It MIGHT come as a surprise to you it is the flipping JURY that says someone is a felon or not based on the evidence and the crime involved.

Later the JUDGE says, based on the verdict of the jury, I now have the power to sentence you to whatever is lawful, from probation, community service ...[text shortened]... BECAUSE he is Joe's son and for no other reason. THEY are the ones weaponizing the courts not Biden.

@no1marauder said
Who told you that, moron?

Yes, someone convicted after trial of 34 felonies (or even one felony) is a "convicted felon" in New York State.

@Mott-The-Hoople said
😂
little lawyer man doesnt understand the justice system

“ A New York jury has found Donald Trump guilty of falsifying business records in an effort to conceal a hush money payment to a porn star ahead of the 2016 presidential election.
Trump’s guilty verdict does not make him a “convicted felon,” however. This label will not be accurate until after he is sentenc ...[text shortened]... ays-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-despite-guilty-verdict-heres-why/

suck on that little lawyer boy

@no1marauder said
That article, written by a political reporter, is filled with basic errors.

The assertion you quote is one.

So is the claim that the gag order has been lifted; it has not. In fact, Trump's lawyers filed a request to Judge Merchan on Tuesday to do so, but he has not ruled on the request:

"Colangelo's filing comes in response to the Tuesday request submitted by T ...[text shortened]... gag-order-timeline-1908709

Again, your gullibility is showing. "Convicted felon" means just that.

@Mott-The-Hoople said
trying to move the goal posts? 😂

read this till you understand it..

“Trump’s guilty verdict does not automatically make him a “convicted felon,” however. This label will not be accurate until after he is sentenced in July.”

@no1marauder
They pull the same stunt when they try to say Trump was not impeached.
But facts don't matter a bit to aholes like Moot the Hoot. His brain has permanently been taken over by Trump and he is stuck with that brain till he dies.
Sad really.
He honestly believes he is the smartest person at LEAST here at RHP.

@no1marauder said
I read it.

It's wrong.

Being convicted of a felony (never mind 34 of them) makes you a "convicted felon".

BTW, did you read the article cited in the OP?

@sonhouse said
@no1marauder
They pull the same stunt when they try to say Trump was not impeached.
But facts don't matter a bit to aholes like Moot the Hoot. His brain has permanently been taken over by Trump and he is stuck with that brain till he dies.
Sad really.
He honestly believes he is the smartest person at LEAST here at RHP.

@Mott-The-Hoople
Nope, people here DID say he was not impeached because the spineless repubs in the senate let him off. They deliberately or otherwise confused impeachment and conviction of impeachment. The House says you are impeached, you are impeached.
They are like prosecutors. The Senate is like jurors who convict or not.

@Mott-The-Hoople said
😂
so you are saying a [b] Yale law professor[/B] is wrong and you are right. 😂

BTW, impersonating a lawyer is a felony in new york state.
😉