@Metal-Brain saidJust move to Russia and be done with it.
The irony. This Russia collusion is a hoax and you were duped to believe it.
It was propaganda to demonize Russia because the USA was preparing Ukraine for a Russian invasion.
https://www.rt.com/news/621721-russiagate-anti-russia-campaign-gabbard/
Our government knew Russia would not allow Ukraine to join NATO and would invade if necessary. That was the whole plan. ...[text shortened]... corporate news media and certain corrupt politicians.
There is no evidence of Russia collusion.
Oh, wait, you probably couldn't get outside their firewall to post here.
Oh, darn.
@no1marauder saidThanks for the specifics.
By the time the FISA warrant was obtained, Page had left the Trump campaign for over a month. And he had previously been the subject of an FISA warrant in 2014:
"Page was the subject of a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant in 2014, at least two years earlier than was indicated in the stories concerning his role in the 2016 presidential campaign of Don ...[text shortened]... p-adviser-and-kremlin-175046002.html
These facts were plenty to justify the initial FISA warrant.
@Earl-of-Trumps saidObama's not going to have a trial.
be sure to bring all this up at Obama's trial.
Gabbard's charges are foolish, outrageous and frivolous. Their only purpose is smokescreen for Trump's Epstein problem.
@Earl-of-Trumps saidhttps://www.cnn.com/2025/07/23/politics/trump-epstein-maxwell-justice-department-analysis
your people like to weaponize the law, and Trump is going tit-for-tat with you.
enjoy the moment
"Trump’s latest bid to end Epstein storm: Weaponizing the federal government"
There was no "weaponizing of government" until Trump got into office. He started it on Day Three, with an Executive Order called "Executive Order 14147—Ending the Weaponization of the Federal Government". Ironic, right?
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/executive-order-14147-ending-the-weaponization-the-federal-government
@Suzianne saidGabbard's charges just may BE foolish, I don't know. I still think Trump is doing this just to show the democrats how it feels to be the recipient of frivolous witch hunts. It's called 'weaponizing the law'. How does it feel, by the way? [grin]
Obama's not going to have a trial.
Gabbard's charges are foolish, outrageous and frivolous. Their only purpose is smokescreen for Trump's Epstein problem.
I am certain this Epstein situation does not have *much* to do with Trump, or the dems would have released the files during Biden's term.
My, my, Suzianne. I think you've run into an embarrassing contradiction.
@Earl-of-Trumps saidNo. Trump broke the law.
Gabbard's charges just may BE foolish, I don't know. I still think Trump is doing this just to show the democrats how it feels to be the recipient of frivolous witch hunts. It's called 'weaponizing the law'. How does it feel, by the way? [grin]
I am certain this Epstein situation does not have *much* to do with Trump, or the dems would have released the files during Biden's term.
My, my, Suzianne. I think you've run into an embarrassing contradiction.
Obama himself called this latest smokescreen trick "nonsense". And nonsense it is.
Trump made up "weaponization". He claimed the Biden administration did it, when all they were doing is investigating Trump for breaking the law.
No other president has ever "weaponized" the agencies against his political enemies. No "witch hunts", no frivolous lawsuits. And now we're seeing what that really looks like.
This Obama nonsense is yet another example of it. History will NOT be kind to Donald J. Trump, the "grifting bully" narcissist president.
This administration is corrupt, right down to their toenails.
@Earl-of-Trumps saidYou are part of the problem, the fully and willfully gullible American people.
@Suzianne said -
There was no "weaponizing of government" until Trump got into office.
ROFLMAO - I think we'll go no further here, Suzianne. I ran out of barf bags lololo
@Suzianne said[yawn], take two aspirins and call me in the morning
No. Trump broke the law.
Obama himself called this latest smokescreen trick "nonsense". And nonsense it is.
Trump made up "weaponization". He claimed the Biden administration did it, when all they were doing is investigating Trump for breaking the law.
No other president has ever "weaponized" the agencies against his political enemies. No "witch hunts", no frivo ...[text shortened]... ifting bully" narcissist president.
This administration is corrupt, right down to their toenails.
@Metal-Brain saidWhy was Trump's campaign manager giving internal campaign documents to a Russian intelligence agent in the middle of the race?https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/08/bipartisan-senate-report-shows-2016-trump-russia-collusion.html
You have yet to provide any source of info. Try doing that instead of spamming lies. You never prove anything because you lie so much. You are just another naive person that thinks investing in Russian stock shares is nefarious. As if nobody does it in this country.
If a US president meets with Putin is that Russian collusion?
collusion
noun
: secret agreement o ...[text shortened]... illegal or deceitful purpose
Not unless you can prove collusion with Russia. Nobody proved that.
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@Earl-of-Trumps said"Frivolous"? It seems likely Trump would have been convicted on at least some charges in all the indictments against him.
Gabbard's charges just may BE foolish, I don't know. I still think Trump is doing this just to show the democrats how it feels to be the recipient of frivolous witch hunts. It's called 'weaponizing the law'. How does it feel, by the way? [grin]
I am certain this Epstein situation does not have *much* to do with Trump, or the dems would have released the files during Biden's term.
My, my, Suzianne. I think you've run into an embarrassing contradiction.
There's a good argument that Federal prosecutors and others treated him with kid gloves by not filing indictments earlier among other things. By waiting until the summer of 2023 to file indictments for actions that occurred in 2021 and were quickly public knowledge, they gave him and friendly judges opportunities to delay and obstruct the cases until after the 2024 election. Then the SCOTUS concocted a Presidential immunity theory which has no basis in the Constitution (that would almost certainly result in the dismissal of any indictment against Obama BTW ). And last of all, Judge Merchan in NY gave him an incredibly lenient, almost unprecedentedly so, sentence for a conviction of a few dozen felonies.
Considering the allegations and evidence supporting those allegations against him, those whining he was treated unfairly by the justice system are completely full of crap.
@no1marauder said -
"Then the SCOTUS concocted a Presidential immunity theory which has no basis in the Constitution (that would almost certainly result in the dismissal of any indictment against Obama BTW )."
Couldn't agree more. Obama will never serve time, if his case even reaches trial
@no1marauder saidYour source did not say he did, just that he sought to. And how would anybody know? Is mind reading a thing?
Why was Trump's campaign manager giving internal campaign documents to a Russian intelligence agent in the middle of the race?https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/08/bipartisan-senate-report-shows-2016-trump-russia-collusion.html
@Metal-Brain saidEver hear of e-mails:
Your source did not say he did, just that he sought to. And how would anybody know? Is mind reading a thing?
"The email, which was seized by investigators working for then-special counsel and former FBI director Robert Mueller, said Mr Manafort ordered Gates — who was also convicted of multiple federal crimes discovered during Mr Mueller’s probe — to provide Mr Kilimnik with internal data from just two weeks before a meeting with the alleged Russian agent."
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/paul-manafort-russia-polling-data-b2140727.html