@Metal-Brain saidOh, you mean ANYONE but that poor misunderstood Putin.
Who doesn't interfere in elections?
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/06/14/yelt-j14.html
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/05/americans-spot-election-meddling-doing-years-vladimir-putin-donald-trump
@Metal-Brain saidOh you mean Russia does it to any other country BUT the US. Got it.
Russia does it. So did the Vatican. Everybody does it......for a good cause. That is how people justify it. It is for a good cause.
@sonhouse saidI'm sure they would try at any chance they could get. The CIA did it to them. Why shouldn't they do it if they can? Even if you could prove Russia interfered in the 2016 election it would not mean they are some dastardly country that deserves your hate. The CIA put Yeltsin into power.
Oh you mean Russia does it to any other country BUT the US. Got it.
Is election interference good when the CIA does it? Is that why you hold such a weird double standard with Russia? Do you think that the USA does it for a good cause so it is okay?
From the link below:
"Former CIA director James Woolsey has admitted that the U.S. “interferes” in elections in other countries to protect its interests.
He made the candid remarks during an interview with Fox News presenter Laura Ingraham on Saturday.
Asked whether the U.S. “meddles in other countries’ elections,” the former CIA chief replied: “Oh probably, but it was for the good of the system in order to prevent the communists from taking over.”
https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/former-cia-chief-admits-to-u-s-meddling-in-foreign-elections/
So the Russians do it to keep the Capitalists from taking over. For the good of the system. Everybody thinks they do it for a good cause. There are no white hats here. Get that through your thick skull. That good guy vs. bad guy stuff makes for good entertainment in movies and such, but the real world is not that way.
Only black hats can compete with each other on the world stage. White hats finish last because they are not ruthless enough. They never even make it to the semi finals. That is the brutal truth for you. And don't ever forget it.
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@no1marauder saidThey said the same thing about Misfud and it was not true. From the link below:
Manafort was the campaign manager for Trump and he was sharing internal campaign information with a "friend" who happened to be a Russian intelligence agent to aid in that government's attempts to interfere with the result in the US election.
Yep, that's collusion.
"In an official report, Democrats on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence asserted that “in their approach to Papadopoulos, the Russians used common tradecraft and employed a cut-out,” a “Kremlin-linked…Maltese professor named Joseph Mifsud.”
No one in the American intelligence community has publicly challenged this description.
But there is one major problem with this story: No evidence has been presented to support the claim. Although Mifsud has traveled many times to Russia and has contacts with Russian academics, his closest public ties are to Western governments, politicians, and institutions, including the CIA, FBI and British intelligence services. One of Mifsud’s jobs has been to train diplomats, police officers, and intelligence officers at schools in London and Rome, where he lived and worked over the last dozen years."
https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2018/05/26/the_maltese_phantom_of_russiagate_.html
Here is another excerpt from the link:
"While most media accounts have simply repeated official claims that Mifsud is a sketchy character whose visits to Russia and academic contacts suggest he is working for Russian intelligence, a look at the available evidence challenges that narrative. It also raises the possibility that Mifsud, whose circles are tied to the Clintons, may, like another professor recently in the news, Stefan Halper, have actually been working for Western intelligence agencies."
You were played. Mifsud was probably British Intelligence or CIA.
This anti Russia paranoia is why Michael Flynn lost his job. Paranoid people like you thought his girlfriend was a Russian spy. You really people need to stop this madness. You see Russian spies everywhere. sh76 accused me of being a Russian bot. You people are paranoid beyond belief.
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-39863781
@Metal-Brain
Dreams can be hard to forgo but it is clear, the Obama investigation will put it all to rest. Russia Russia Russia !!
NYET NYET NYET
@Metal-Brain saidThe Vatican??
Russia does it. So did the Vatican. Everybody does it......for a good cause. That is how people justify it. It is for a good cause.
Are you an idiot?
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@Earl-of-Trumps saidAnyone whom believes anything out of Trump or his administration is a fool; period. They have nothing on Obama what-so-ever; A-duh! LOL...
https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-admin-manufactured-intelligence-create-170255319.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-admin-manufactured-intelligence-create-170255319.html
Obama admin 'manufactured' intelligence to create 2016 Russian election interference narrative, documents show
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Tulsi Gabbard, Director of National Intelligence, believes there is enough evidence to prosecute Obama,
Nothing but another one of Trumps distractions to get away from releasing THE EPSTEIN FILES!!!
@Earl-of-Trumps saidThis already happened years ago. Except it was the entire Republican intelligence community.
@Metal-Brain
Dreams can be hard to forgo but it is clear, the Obama investigation will put it all to rest. Russia Russia Russia !!
NYET NYET NYET
Where were you then?
@sonhouse saidDirector of National Intelligence James Clapper, CIA Director Brennan and former Attorney General Loretta Lynch admitted under oath they had “no direct empirical evidence” of Russian collusion with Trump but still advanced the narrative publicly.
Oh, you mean ANYONE but that poor misunderstood Putin.
https://www.newstarget.com/2025-07-26-docs-show-obama-aides-orchestrated-russia-hoax.html
They admitted they had no evidence. Case closed. The Russia Collusion narrative was a lie. It was a hoax.
@Metal-Brain saidAt no point in any of the prior investigative reports, some of them were run entirely by Republicans, do they call this a hoax.
Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, CIA Director Brennan and former Attorney General Loretta Lynch admitted under oath they had “no direct empirical evidence” of Russian collusion with Trump but still advanced the narrative publicly.
https://www.newstarget.com/2025-07-26-docs-show-obama-aides-orchestrated-russia-hoax.html
They admitted they had no evidence. Case closed. The Russia Collusion narrative was a lie. It was a hoax.