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    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/19/us/politics/russia-interference-midterm-elections.html

    Get ready for it everyone. If the Dims lose.....again.....it will be the fault of Putin.

    However, if the Dims win the story will go away.
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    20 Oct '18 00:49
    @whodey said
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/19/us/politics/russia-interference-midterm-elections.html

    Get ready for it everyone. If the Dims lose.....again.....it will be the fault of Putin.

    However, if the Dims win the story will go away.
    Nah if Dems win it's the fault of Xi.
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    20 Oct '18 04:23
    @whodey said
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/19/us/politics/russia-interference-midterm-elections.html

    Get ready for it everyone. If the Dims lose.....again.....it will be the fault of Putin.

    However, if the Dims win the story will go away.
    It's not Russia I'm worried about, it's the Republicans stripping the PoC off the voting rolls again.
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    20 Oct '18 07:50
    @whodey said
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/19/us/politics/russia-interference-midterm-elections.html

    Get ready for it everyone. If the Dims lose.....again.....it will be the fault of Putin.

    However, if the Dims win the story will go away.
    You think that the Mueller investigation will halt as soon as the Democrats win the midterms?
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    21 Oct '18 04:13
    @kazetnagorra said
    You think that the Mueller investigation will halt as soon as the Democrats win the midterms?
    No. (why would it end?)

    If Dems had played it cool these past two years there would probably be a power shift in their favor in the midterm elections.
    Typically what happens is the party that loses control of the executive branch gains back some of their power in the midterms.
    As expected losing the White House to republicans fired up the democrat base, whereas the republican base should have become complacent after winning the White House... should have, but didn't.
    Republican voters are just as fired up (if not more so) as Democrat voters.

    But I'm getting ahead of myself. I wasn't planning on saying anything about this until after the midterms, because talking about it now sounds like monday morning quarterbacking before the fact.
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    21 Oct '18 12:04
    @lemon-lime said
    No. (why would it end?)

    If Dems had played it cool these past two years there would probably be a power shift in their favor in the midterm elections.
    Typically what happens is the party that loses control of the executive branch gains back some of their power in the midterms.
    As expected losing the White House to republicans fired up the democrat base, whereas the re ...[text shortened]... erms, because talking about it now sounds like monday morning quarterbacking before the fact.
    American elections, especially mid-term elections, typically have extremely low turnout compared to functional modern democracies. I don't think it is accurate to say American voters are "fired up" with such extremely high levels of apathy.
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    @suzianne said
    It's not Russia I'm worried about, it's the Republicans stripping the PoC off the voting rolls again.
    Well then, just start digging up more dead voters and obtaining more illegal immigrant votes

    May the best cheater win. Just ask the New England Patriots

    It's what democracy is all about.
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    21 Oct '18 16:41
    @kazetnagorra said
    American elections, especially mid-term elections, typically have extremely low turnout compared to functional modern democracies. I don't think it is accurate to say American voters are "fired up" with such extremely high levels of apathy.
    extremely high levels of apathy

    I'm not sure if you meant that as comedic understatement, or if you just don't know.

    or care to know
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    @kazetnagorra said
    American elections, especially mid-term elections, typically have extremely low turnout compared to functional modern democracies. I don't think it is accurate to say American voters are "fired up" with such extremely high levels of apathy.
    Just out of curiosity...

    Have you seen British citizens exhibiting extremely high levels of apathy over the Brexit deal?
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    @lemon-lime said
    Just out of curiosity...

    Have you seen British citizens exhibiting extremely high levels of apathy over the Brexit deal?
    The Leftists rule the British.

    As a result, they will refuse to let the democratic vote of Brexit stand.

    I have no questions about that.

    After all, Leftists are fascists.
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    @whodey said
    The Leftists rule the British.

    As a result, they will refuse to let the democratic vote of Brexit stand.

    I have no questions about that.

    After all, Leftists are fascists.
    Right turn, Clyde!!
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    @whodey said
    The Leftists rule the British.

    As a result, they will refuse to let the democratic vote of Brexit stand.

    I have no questions about that.

    After all, Leftists are fascists.
    u really r a numpty the right wing run the uk even with a socialist government the civil service is predominantly right wing as is the royal family, I am a Labour member and a member of Momentum as left wing as you can get in the uk, even the labour party was under phoney Blair a right leaning party.
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    23 Oct '18 15:29
    @lemon-lime said
    Just out of curiosity...

    Have you seen British citizens exhibiting extremely high levels of apathy over the Brexit deal?
    The non-binding Brexit referendum had a much higher turnout than U.S. midterm elections.
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    @badradger said
    u really r a numpty the right wing run the uk even with a socialist government the civil service is predominantly right wing as is the royal family, I am a Labour member and a member of Momentum as left wing as you can get in the uk, even the labour party was under phoney Blair a right leaning party.
    To whodey, "leftist" is a catch-all phrase designating those he views as bogeymen.
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    @whodey said
    Well then, just start digging up more dead voters and obtaining more illegal immigrant votes

    May the best cheater win. Just ask the New England Patriots

    It's what democracy is all about.
    You just can't admit that Trump did not win the popular vote in 16 and republicans are in actual deep doo doo for '18 midterms where you see such spectacles as Cruz actually hugging Trump, whom he called a moron and T called Cruz a liar, but now he's beautiful.

    Do you seriously think they are bosom buddies now for real? The hypocrisy was dripping off Trump's hairpiece and all over the Cruz monkey suit.

    Both parties are pumped so it is up in the air who wins now. If repubs win it will be all over for any hope of the US regaining any form of respect in the world. I hope you don't think we HAVE the respect of the world now with all the crap Trump has pulled, sucking up to Putin and Un, dissing NATO, Canada and Mexico.

    I think even you have to admit that was an extremely stupid way to run foreign relations. We also won't be recovering from that for a long time even if that sorry ass Trump gets booted out in 2019 or so or gets booted out in 2020 and a real person becomes POTUS, the damage around the planet has been done and that is BESIDES all the corruption clearly going on with Trump and company.

    Thing is, his get out of jail card is only good till he is booted out of office, either through impeachment or not being re-elected in '20, either way even when Kavanaugh gives T his GOOJC, it is null and void the minute he becomes a civilian again. Plus, his kids and Kushner are NEVER going to get a GOOJC because they are not POTUS and therefore are subject to arrest right now if Mueller indicts them.

    So good luck with your buddy POTUS. He gets more rotten every day.
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