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    15 Mar '18 22:22
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43415271

    As the chimps in the Western world devour themselves due to political differences, and as the Russians sit back and laugh after mudding the waters in the US election, the Russians then use a nerve agent in the UK.

    An event like this should wake us up to the real threats in the world verses the perceived ones at home.

    But I digress.

    What should be done?
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    15 Mar '18 22:26
    By who?
  3. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    15 Mar '18 22:56
    Originally posted by @whodey
    What should be done?
    Send the Agent home!

    What a nerve letting him into UK.
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    16 Mar '18 12:45
    Originally posted by @whodey
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43415271

    As the chimps in the Western world devour themselves due to political differences, and as the Russians sit back and laugh after mudding the waters in the US election, the Russians then use a nerve agent in the UK.

    An event like this should wake us up to the real threats in the world verses the perceived ones at home.

    But I digress.

    What should be done?
    Firing Putin's most important agent in the western world would be a start.
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    16 Mar '18 13:07
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    Send the Agent home!

    What a nerve letting him into UK.
    Well apparently Russian nerve agents are OK but guns are not in the UK.

    Thanks for that.
  6. Seongnam, S. Korea
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    16 Mar '18 13:22
    To be completely fair, Whodey ...

    That was a traitor.

    A Russian born Russian agent who revealed the secrets of the Russian spy agency and then was rewarded by the British.

    What country thinks that they can openly reward and maintain an ex-doubel agent for a country taht they are now allegedly neutral with?

    Whodey...

    If the Russians had an American spy who turned in hundreds of American agents and sold out his nation, how would you feel?
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    16 Mar '18 13:52
    Originally posted by @whodey
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43415271

    As the chimps in the Western world devour themselves due to political differences, and as the Russians sit back and laugh after mudding the waters in the US election, the Russians then use a nerve agent in the UK.

    An event like this should wake us up to the real threats in the world verses the perceived ones at home.

    But I digress.

    What should be done?
    Start at home. Lead by example.
    Make sure the US doesn't become another Russia.
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    16 Mar '18 14:02
    Originally posted by @philokalia
    To be completely fair, Whodey ...

    That was a traitor.

    A Russian born Russian agent who revealed the secrets of the Russian spy agency and then was rewarded by the British.

    What country thinks that they can openly reward and maintain an ex-doubel agent for a country taht they are now allegedly neutral with?

    Whodey...

    If the Russians had an ...[text shortened]... rican spy who turned in hundreds of American agents and sold out his nation, how would you feel?
    The issue is that they used nerve gas.

    I reckon that is what you have to do in a nation that outlaws guns I reckon.
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    16 Mar '18 14:03
    Originally posted by @mghrn55
    Start at home. Lead by example.
    Make sure the US doesn't become another Russia.
    Tell that to Snowden.
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    16 Mar '18 14:25
    Anyone remember Obama mocking Romney for saying Russia was a huge national security issue.

    YouTube

    Now they lie awake nights crying about Putin handing Trump the election.

    Hilarious! 😵
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    16 Mar '18 14:541 edit
    Russia is also hacking into US power grids

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-15/russian-hackers-attacking-u-s-power-grid-aviation-fbi-warns

    Looks like the Cold war is starting anew.
  12. Standard membercaissad4
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    16 Mar '18 16:58
    Originally posted by @whodey
    Russia is also hacking into US power grids

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-15/russian-hackers-attacking-u-s-power-grid-aviation-fbi-warns

    Looks like the Cold war is starting anew.
    The Cold War never ended. The Bear will always come over the hill.
  13. Joined
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    16 Mar '18 17:26
    Yea, but don't they ever hibernate?
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    16 Mar '18 17:42
    Originally posted by @whodey
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43415271

    As the chimps in the Western world devour themselves due to political differences, and as the Russians sit back and laugh after mudding the waters in the US election, the Russians then use a nerve agent in the UK.

    An event like this should wake us up to the real threats in the world verses the perceived ones at home.

    But I digress.

    What should be done?
    From the link below:

    3) Novichoks exist in various forms

    While some Novichok agents are liquids, others are thought to exist in solid form. This means they could be dispersed as an ultra-fine powder.

    Some of the agents are also reported to be "binary weapons", meaning the nerve agent is typically stored as two less toxic chemical ingredients. When these are mixed, they react to produce the active toxic agent.

    This makes the ingredients easier to transport, handle and store as they only become fully toxic when mixed.

    "One of the main reasons these agents are developed is because their component parts are not on the banned list," says Prof Stephens. "It means the chemicals that are mixed to create it are much easier to deliver with no risk to the health of the courier."
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43377698
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    17 Mar '18 08:03
    From the link below:

    "Moscow has denied any involvement in the attempted murder of former Russian double agent Sergei Skripal and his daughter. It has cast Britain as a post-colonial power unsettled by its impending exit from the European Union, and even suggested London fabricated the attack to whip up anti-Russian hysteria."

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-russia/russia-to-expel-uk-diplomats-as-crisis-over-nerve-toxin-attack-deepens-idUSKCN1GS0ZX

    A false flag poisoning? It may be that our government needs an excuse to ramp up sanctions against Russia. The real reason is Syria in my opinion. Russia took sides against the USA and is being punished using bogus excuses.
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