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@divegeester saidI don’t know about N Carolina but the only one CNN and C-span have mentioned as in contention is the two senate seats in Georgia. If the Dems can win them the house will be 50/50 but Harris as VP will have the deciding vote so these seats are massive but I don’t think the clever money is on the Dems winning either seat.
I’m trying to get a handle on this, can someone kindly update on where we are with the power implications relating to the outcomes and seat involving these last two states (Georgia and North Carolina)?
Thanks
09 Nov 20
@divegeester saidRight now, the Senate stands at 46 Democrats, two Independents who caucus with the Democrats and 48 Republicans.
I’m trying to get a handle on this, can someone kindly update on where we are with the power implications relating to the outcomes and seat involving these last two states (Georgia and North Carolina)?
Thanks
Two races haven't been called: Alaska and North Carolina both where Republicans appear to have reasonably safe leads but there are still absentee ballots to count (Alaska law doesn't allow the counting of any absentee ballots until November 12th and North Carolina allows mail in ballots to be counted if they arrive by that date).
In Georgia, State law requires a run off if the leading candidate gets less than 50%. That is clearly the case in the Warnock(D)-Loeffler(R) race. In the other, Perdue(R) has 49.75% pending a recount. Its possible, though rather unlikely, that he could get over 50% with a recount; in the more probable case he doesn't, he'll have a runoff against Ossoff(D). Both Georgia runoffs would be held on January 5th.
Assuming the Republican candidates prevail in Alaska and North Carolina, the Democrats would have to prevail in both Georgia runoffs to get to a 50-50 Senate split. Tie votes in the Senate are resolved by the vote of the Vice-President, so this would give effective control of the Senate to the Democrats.
There have been 416 races called in the House, with the Democrats winning 218 and Republicans 198. This is a net pick up so far of 4 for the Republicans, but the Democrats will retain their majority in the 435 House of Representatives though by how much is still uncertain (they started with a 232-197 majority with 1 Libertarian and 5 vacancies).
09 Nov 20
@kevcvs57 saidBetting markets aren't the most reliable predictors of election results but at present they rate Warnock as a slight favorite and Perdue a more substantial one. https://www.sportsbettingdime.com/news/politics/odds-win-georgia-senate-runoffs-favor-warnock-over-loeffler-perdue-over-ossoff/
I don’t know about N Carolina but the only one CNN and C-span have mentioned as in contention is the two senate seats in Georgia. If the Dems can win them the house will be 50/50 but Harris as VP will have the deciding vote so these seats are massive but I don’t think the clever money is on the Dems winning either seat.
09 Nov 20
@no1marauder saidMaybe the Dems Stacy Adams can help upset the bookies it’s pretty close š¤
Betting markets aren't the most reliable predictors of election results but at present they rate Warnock as a slight favorite and Perdue a more substantial one. https://www.sportsbettingdime.com/news/politics/odds-win-georgia-senate-runoffs-favor-warnock-over-loeffler-perdue-over-ossoff/
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@no1marauder saidThanks for the detailed post, although I’m not sure that as lay observer of American politics that I’m much clearer, but that’s my fault.
Right now, the Senate stands at 46 Democrats, two Independents who caucus with the Democrats and 48 Republicans.
Two races haven't been called: Alaska and North Carolina both where Republicans appear to have reasonably safe leads but there are still absentee ballots to count (Alaska law doesn't allow the counting of any absentee ballots until November 12th and North Ca ...[text shortened]... w much is still uncertain (they started with a 232-197 majority with 1 Libertarian and 5 vacancies).
As is understand it the White House sets the agenda, the Senate approves or rejects individual bills, and the House ratifies. Is that correct?
09 Nov 20
@divegeester saidNot really. Legislation has to pass both the House and Senate and can be initiated in either.
Thanks for the detailed post, although I’m not sure that as lay observer of American politics that I’m much clearer, but that’s my fault.
As is understand it the White House sets the agenda, the Senate approves or rejects individual bills, and the House ratifies. Is that correct?
In general, the President can propose legislation and easily get someone in the Congress to introduce it but not necessarily in the pristine form he/she would desire.
Sorry, US politics is kinda complicated.
09 Nov 20
@no1marauder saidI thought UK parliamentary process was complicated enough!
Not really. Legislation has to pass both the House and Senate and can be initiated in either.
In general, the President can propose legislation and easily get someone in the Congress to introduce it but not necessarily in the pristine form he/she would desire.
Sorry, US politics is kinda complicated.
Bill > commons vote, [passes] > Lords vote, [amends] > back to commons rinse and repeat.
US Congress is a beast.
@cheesemaster saidI'm f'd up enough to actually agree with that.
I hope the dems take control of the senate š¤
More damage can be done if they have all of the power š
Let them have control and raise taxes and open the border and all the other crap that they want to do so people will regret the choice they made when they see the results of it.
If the Republican Senate maintains control and blocks all of those crazy leftist ideas then that actually helps Biden because it will bring a middle ground of stability.
I say give them full control so we can sit back and watch the resulting chaos. š
...then we have a Republican domination in 2024 š¤
Will Trump run again? š®
09 Nov 20
@earl-of-trumps saidSure they could drag the country to the far left, socialist vision of Joe Manchin.
I'm f'd up enough to actually agree with that.