@stellspalfie saidSo the democrat party should ban all guns?
YES!!!!
Why don't they say they will then?
Are they part of the problem?
@stellspalfie saidyou're feeding the troll.
YES!!!!
he is implying that nothing should be done to prevent mass shootings and gun deaths in general because no perfect solution exists that would prevent 100% of them. he is suggesting a preposterous solution which will not work anyway and claiming that's the only thing that can possibly be done and the only thing the gun control advocates support.
you're taking the bait and agreeing to his preposterous suggestion (no idea if it's because you're too lazy to debate him but not lazy enough to ignore him or you actually believe all guns should be banned).
Guns aren't the problem. Getting guns too easily is the problem. Getting guns without training is the problem. Without a psych evaluation. Without checking one's criminal record. I want to have the option to get a gun if i live in a bad neighborhood. I want however for people to have to jump through hoops to get guns, to be harder to get a gun than it is to get a car and i absolutely agree to have to jump through those hoops myself should i ever need a gun.
09 Nov 18
@zahlanzi saidI don't think someone is feeding a troll when they advocate what they believe. I personally don't believe that private citizens having guns makes anyone safer. While it might be impractical to get rid of all guns, it certainly seems like we'd all be safer.
you're feeding the troll.
he is implying that nothing should be done to prevent mass shootings and gun deaths in general because no perfect solution exists that would prevent 100% of them. he is suggesting a preposterous solution which will not work anyway and claiming that's the only thing that can possibly be done and the only thing the gun control advocates support.
...[text shortened]... et a car and i absolutely agree to have to jump through those hoops myself should i ever need a gun.
(1) There is always a chance that no matter how many regulations you enforce a gun owner could use their gun to commit a crime (2) guns can accidentally injure someone (3) a third person could gain access to a gun and use it to commit a crime (4) a person can use a gun in self defense and a third person could be injured. In all of these cases does gun ownership makes society more dangerous.
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@zahlanzi saidhow in the hell do you train someone not to shoot people? These are not “accidental” shootings. ignorant juvenile words.
you're feeding the troll.
he is implying that nothing should be done to prevent mass shootings and gun deaths in general because no perfect solution exists that would prevent 100% of them. he is suggesting a preposterous solution which will not work anyway and claiming that's the only thing that can possibly be done and the only thing the gun control advocates support.
...[text shortened]... et a car and i absolutely agree to have to jump through those hoops myself should i ever need a gun.
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@zahlanzi saidI don't like to see a hungry troll, so forgive me its my bleeding liberal heart, poor hungry Whodey.
you're feeding the troll.
he is implying that nothing should be done to prevent mass shootings and gun deaths in general because no perfect solution exists that would prevent 100% of them. he is suggesting a preposterous solution which will not work anyway and claiming that's the only thing that can possibly be done and the only thing the gun control advocates support.
...[text shortened]... et a car and i absolutely agree to have to jump through those hoops myself should i ever need a gun.
As for your rant - I do actually believe that all guns should be banned.....must be my bleeding liberal heart again, god damn it!!!
09 Nov 18
@stellspalfie said"I don't like to see a hungry troll, so forgive me its my bleeding liberal heart, poor hungry Whodey."
I don't like to see a hungry troll, so forgive me its my bleeding liberal heart, poor hungry Whodey.
As for your rant - I do actually believe that all guns should be banned.....must be my bleeding liberal heart again, god damn it!!!
no idea why people don't just ignore him. i guess morbid fascination of which i am guilty of too. i just don't respond to him.
"I do actually believe that all guns should be banned...must be my bleeding liberal heart again, god damn it!!!"
liberal heart has nothing to do it. it's more a matter of wishful thinking and impracticality.
yes, the ideal would be a world in which bad neighborhoods didn't exist, where muggins and rape would exist, where everyone had money to take a cab straight home.
a world with a police patrol within earshot to always be able to help you.
we don't live in an ideal world, sometime you need to protect yourself. to discard a useful tool simply because bad things happen is foolish.
the car example, overused by idiotic gun nuts in the wrong way, applies here. You don't ban cars even though people die because of them. You regulate them. People get driver licenses which you can lose if you prove irresponsible. There are driving laws, limits on speed, tonnage. There is a limit how much you can modify a car. There are safety measures, reviewed and updated constantly.
09 Nov 18
@zahlanzi saidYou don't ban cars because because their purpose and common use is transportation. The purpose of guns is specifically to kill. That makes comparison of any consumer product to guns completely invalid.
the car example, overused by idiotic gun nuts in the wrong way, applies here. You don't ban cars even though people die because of them. You regulate them.
@vivify saidNo, the are other reasons people own guns.
You don't ban cars because because their purpose and common use is transportation. The purpose of guns is specifically to kill. That makes comparison of any consumer product to guns completely invalid.
How many people that own guns have actually killed someone?
Hmm?
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@zahlanzi saidThere are 'bad neighbourhoods' in every country, yet in most countries, people don't have guns, they manage just fine without them....and have much lower gun deaths. Why? Because there are almost no guns!!!
"I don't like to see a hungry troll, so forgive me its my bleeding liberal heart, poor hungry Whodey."
no idea why people don't just ignore him. i guess morbid fascination of which i am guilty of too. i just don't respond to him.
"I do actually believe that all guns should be banned...must be my bleeding liberal heart again, god damn it!!!"
liberal heart has nothing ...[text shortened]... s a limit how much you can modify a car. There are safety measures, reviewed and updated constantly.
Yes, the car example is idiotic, confusing that you then went on to use it???
@whodey saidWhat is the relevance of that?
No, the are other reasons people own guns.
How many people that own guns have actually killed someone?
Hmm?
How many countries with nuclear weapons have used them?
Do we conclude nukes are safe?
Why do't you go play Russian roulette?
The odds are in your favour.