@whodey saidThis would be a great subject (your post) to have a mature discussion about, but there is no hope to maintain such a thread with these characters. We read it as common sense, they do not understand how we could POSSIBLY see that as common sense! Ahh, the stuff of good debate, but alas, not to be.
Drugs kill far more people than guns, yet Leftists are obsessed with legalizing drugs and restricting guns.
And when asked why drugs should be legalized, they say that people will do it anyway and our jails are too full by continuing to lock these people up, but when asked about guns it is the opposite attitude of government having the power and might and jail space to rest ...[text shortened]... n high on various mind altering substances, so their illogic and insanity begins to make more sense.
@wolfgang59 saidWho said anything about purchasing?
Drugs are not purchased to kill other people.
Guns are.
@kevcvs57 saidWell in the US the history of Prohibition is rather interesting.
Well I could’ve just as reasonably posed that question to a Brit we’ve got the same double standard when it comes to good drug , bad drug.
I do know from anecdotal evidence that cops over here would like to see cannabis legalised and alcohol banned or controlled much more severely than it is now.
Alcohol use, as it is today, killed far more people than pretty much anything out there, so there arose a movement to ban it. But it was a half hearted attempt.
Let me splain.
At the turn of the 20th century, the US federal government was funded primarily by taxes on alcohol sales. There was not federal income tax. A federal income tax was struck down by SCOTUS right before the turn of the 20th century as unconstitutional, so they schemed of a way to add it to the Constitution. They then adopted the stance that alcohol needed to be banned, in order to do away with most income to the Federal government, which created a need for a new source of revenue. So they allied with conservative Christians and other elements of statists who merely wanted more federal revenue to ban alcohol in order to create the need for a Federal Income Tax. So they first passed the Federal Income tax amendment, and they banned alcohol.
The attempt to ban alcohol was half hearted. In Ken Burns Documentary on Prohibition, you will learn that the very legislators who Constitutionally banned alcohol had boot leaggers come to the very chambers of Congress itself to sell them alcohol. Essentially they only made a few arrests, and then threw up their hands and said it was useless, people were going to drink anyway, so they overturned Prohibition.
So at the end of the day, not only did they have revenue for the Federal government via the Federal Income tax, but they resumed taking taxes from alcohol sales as well. In effect, they doubled their sources of revenue which is what they only intended all along.
Then to add insult to injury, the state opened liquor stores to sell directly to the public.
@whodey saidYour point here points out my time-worn point, that libs will prevail in the end. Of COURSE accessibility will wide open....just like the borders are wide open soon. They push and push and push. One of the hypocrisies is that while they want everything unchecked, unregulated, they want government to control our lives? This is why they wet their beds regularly. Can you imagine the chew-marks on Sonhouse's pillow??
I would think that if you made illicit drugs legal, you could not stop there. Why not then make all drugs accessible to the public without medical supervision?
Or does the Left advocate doctors prescribing illicit drugs to make them feel better?
@whodey saidThey didn't teach real history in your high school, did they?
Well in the US the history of Prohibition is rather interesting.
Alcohol use, as it is today, killed far more people than pretty much anything out there, so there arose a movement to ban it. But it was a half hearted attempt.
Let me splain.
At the turn of the 20th century, the US federal government was funded primarily by taxes on alcohol sales. There was not federa ...[text shortened]... ong.
Then to add insult to injury, the state opened liquor stores to sell directly to the public.
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@no1marauder saidIn school they taught me that FDR was a god, abortion is wonderful, and knowledge and science supersedes silly notions of morality based upon religion.
They didn't teach real history in your high school, did they?
I just can't figure out why I did not learn about such things as the Court packing scheme by FDR, the racist roots of the DNC and the KKK and abortion based upon eugenics, and the fact that Stalin murdered far more people than Hitler.
Oh well, maybe I was sick those days...……...
@averagejoe1 saidI know, I insulted his deity FDR.
@whodey Uh oh, you just confused No1
I'm a heretic!
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@averagejoe1 said“ One of the hypocrisies is that while they want everything unchecked, unregulated, they want government to control our lives?”
Your point here points out my time-worn point, that libs will prevail in the end. Of COURSE accessibility will wide open....just like the borders are wide open soon. They push and push and push. One of the hypocrisies is that while they want everything unchecked, unregulated, they want government to control our lives? This is why they wet their beds regularly. Can you imagine the chew-marks on Sonhouse's pillow??
That’s not an hypocrisy, below average Joe, it’s a ‘contradiction in terms’ (google it) and right wingers love them.
Hers a good one ‘ we don’t want the sexual predator halfwit Biden in the White House so we’re gonna vote for Trump’
@whodey saidIn effect, they doubled their sources of revenue which is what they only intended all along.
Well in the US the history of Prohibition is rather interesting.
Alcohol use, as it is today, killed far more people than pretty much anything out there, so there arose a movement to ban it. But it was a half hearted attempt.
Let me splain.
At the turn of the 20th century, the US federal government was funded primarily by taxes on alcohol sales. There was not federa ...[text shortened]... ong.
Then to add insult to injury, the state opened liquor stores to sell directly to the public.
Excellent post, Whodey.
Power pigs! you gotta hate'em.
Somewhere along the way, a line in the sand has to be drawn.
Yes, of course, alcohol and tobacco are bad for you. This can be mitigated.
But when I see drug rehab centers opening across America the way we saw McDonald's open up across America in the 70's, there is a huge problem.
I am a libertarian and this is one plank in their platform that I disagree with, legalize all drugs. If Americans have to come to the rescue via taxes for such a large swath of the American public, then just say "NO" to hard drugs. Libertarians do not like being held accountable for stupid people so why not take action here? (but my libertarian buddies argue). I don't want the government spending precious resources on people that are taking a path to their own death. And since we cannot stop the government from taxing us to bail out the willful disabled, then we have to make drugs illegal. IMO.
Ok, Ok, I am a sinner with alcohol and tobacco, and if it is deemed that I too am a risk to society, I understand. But if people have the means to cover their own illness, insurance, then that is forgivable, IMO. Think of it like mandatory auto insurance, only it is for you and your body.
But I ask, what junkie has the proper insurance to cover him/her when they finally crash out? Mitigate that.
Just say "NO" to legalizing drugs. pssst, and please don't take them, too.
@kquinn909 saidYes. All drugs should be legalized.
I watch all these cop shows. Majority of the busts are for pot. The cops dogs are trained to falsely key so they can do an illegal search. US has per capita the most prisoners in the world and the most are for drugs. I live in Ca. I can get pot delivered to my door if I wish.
What you do with the drugs should sometimes be criminal.
Like the Rohypnol example Dutchess gives. Administering a drug to someone without explicit consent should obviously be criminal.
Unlike Dutchess, I don’t believe legalization will make administering date rape drugs more common.
The sort of motherfukker who does that will do it regardless of legality.