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  1. 14 Jul '05 17:27
    http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8568266/

    Wilson: The president should ‘fire Karl Rove’
    Former ambassador Joe Wilson talks with NBC's Jamie Gangel about who, he believes, is responsible for the outing of his wife, CIA operative Valerie Plame Wilson, and how he hopes justice will be served


    • Wilson speaks
    July 14: In an exclusive interview, ex-ambassador Joseph Wilson talks with NBC News' Jamie Gangel. Wilson is husband of Valerie Plame, the former CIA staffer exposed after a leak to the press.


    It was two years ago today that columnist Robert Novak outed Valerie Plame Wilson as a CIA operative. For the last eight months, ambassador Joe Wilson has let the legal process play out, and waited while the grand jury did its work. But now, as the investigation heats up and gets closer to the White House, and as fingers point directly at Karl Rove, Wilson is ready to talk. “Today” national correspondent Jamie Gangel sat down for an exclusive interview with him. She asked Wilson whether he feels Karl Rove should be fired, and about his wife, who’s now back at the CIA, but Wilson started the interview by accusing the White House of a conspiracy. Here is Jamie Gangel's report.

    http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8568266/


    Can this case become politically dangerous for Bush ?

    What do you think ? Should Bush fire Karl Rove ?
  2. Donation kirksey957
    Outkast
    14 Jul '05 18:10
    Originally posted by ivanhoe
    http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8568266/

    Wilson: The president should ‘fire Karl Rove’
    Former ambassador Joe Wilson talks with NBC's Jamie Gangel about who, he believes, is responsible for the outing of his wife, CIA operative Valerie Plame Wilson, and how he hopes justice will be served


    • Wilson speaks
    July 14: In an exclusive interview, ex-ambassador ...[text shortened]... case become politically dangerous for Bush ?

    What do you think ? Should Bush fire Karl Rove ?
    How does Chief Justice Karl Rove sound?
  3. 14 Jul '05 18:23
    Originally posted by kirksey957
    How does Chief Justice Karl Rove sound?
    LOL! Sounds like an invitation to hand-to-hand combat in the Senate to me. Teddy Kennedy will be getting his killer car out of storage and inviting Republicans for rides across bridges.
  4. Standard member telerion
    True X X Xian
    14 Jul '05 20:39
    Originally posted by ivanhoe
    http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8568266/

    Wilson: The president should ‘fire Karl Rove’
    Former ambassador Joe Wilson talks with NBC's Jamie Gangel about who, he believes, is responsible for the outing of his wife, CIA operative Valerie Plame Wilson, and how he hopes justice will be served


    • Wilson speaks
    July 14: In an exclusive interview, ex-ambassador ...[text shortened]... case become politically dangerous for Bush ?

    What do you think ? Should Bush fire Karl Rove ?
    Well, if Bush is honest, then he should stick by his word and do it. Since Bush is not honest, but rather a national leader, this argument is irrelevant.

    Now if Bush is smart (and that is debatable), he will fire Rove once the man becomes a sufficient political liability which impedes the current agenda and neither Bush nor anyone else in his administration is running for office in 2008 so they won't be making use of Rove's tactical election genius. Remeber, just because you formally dismiss the guy doesn't mean he still isn't there.

    My final assessment: Bush is Rove's lapdog. He will not dismiss Rove until Rove tells him to. Or maybe Cheney tells him to. This could be a confusing time for Shrub.
  5. Standard member wib
    Stay outta my biznez
    14 Jul '05 21:37
    Originally posted by telerion
    Well, if Bush is honest, then he should stick by his word and do it. Since Bush is not honest, but rather a national leader, this argument is irrelevant.

    Now if Bush is smart (and that is debatable), he will fire Rove once the man becomes a sufficient political liability which impedes the current agenda and neither Bush nor anyone else in his administra ...[text shortened]... til Rove tells him to. Or maybe Cheney tells him to. This could be a confusing time for Shrub.
    Agreed. Rove will stay unless he becomes a serious political liability for the party, not just Bush. Once that happens the attack dogs will turn on one of their own. They'll rip Rove to shreds.

    But I don't think that'll happen. Rove will show his us his best Clinton impersonation and he'll wiggle and squiggle just enough to keep his job. Too bad. I'd like to see him fry.
  6. 14 Jul '05 22:11
    nah ...

    the question is what is Valerie P. doing sending her husband out on choice diplomatic missions to Niger ... isn't that nespotism? ... all the millions of people employed by the fed gov and the only capable one she could find happened to be her husband? ...

  7. 14 Jul '05 22:12
    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    nah ...

    the question is what is Valerie P. doing sending her husband out on choice diplomatic missions to Niger ... isn't that nespotism? ... all the millions of people employed by the fed gov and the only capable one she could find happened to be her husband? ...

    how come the media aren't talking about THAT? ...
  8. Standard member Wulebgr
    Angler
    14 Jul '05 22:18
    Karl Rove should fire Bush
  9. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    14 Jul '05 22:22
    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    nah ...

    the question is what is Valerie P. doing sending her husband out on choice diplomatic missions to Niger ... isn't that nespotism? ... all the millions of people employed by the fed gov and the only capable one she could find happened to be her husband? ...

    Because it ain't true; Rove lied (what a surprise).
  10. 14 Jul '05 22:26
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Because it ain't true; Rove lied (what a surprise).
    how do you know?
  11. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    14 Jul '05 22:38
    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    how do you know?
    Have someone read you a paper; I'm not going to do your research for ya. The most even the right wingers are claiming is that Plame "recommended" her husband because he was a former ambassador and knew people in the government's bureau of mining or whatever. She didn't have authority to "send" him anywhere at least in her position the the CIA (as his wife I'm sure she had the authority to send him to boring cocktail parties).
  12. 14 Jul '05 22:38
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Because it ain't true; Rove lied (what a surprise).
    Coming from you, it's no surprise.
  13. 14 Jul '05 23:06
    hey, look, Ann Coulter's just-issued column is right on topic:

    http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ucac/20050714/cm_ucac/missionimplausible
    Ann Coulter
    July 14, 2005
    Mission Implausible

    "Karl Rove was right. The real story about Joseph C. Wilson IV was not that Bush lied about Saddam seeking uranium in Africa; the story was Clown Wilson and his paper-pusher wife, Valerie Plame. By foisting their fantasies of themselves on the country, these two have instigated a massive criminal investigation, the result of which is: The only person who has demonstrably lied and possibly broken the law is Joseph Wilson. "
  14. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    14 Jul '05 23:07
    Good source.
  15. 14 Jul '05 23:17
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Good source.
    glad you liked it ... thomas sowell's columns are better, but i like her, too, mostly ...