should US ban flights to/from Brazil?

should US ban flights to/from Brazil?

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silicon valley

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no air marshals, no flights.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/10/21/us.brazil.air.marshals/index.html?hpt=T2

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no

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Pepperland

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
no air marshals, no flights.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/10/21/us.brazil.air.marshals/index.html?hpt=T2
oh so they break our laws and instead of condemning these violent thugs you propose a ban on flights to brazil? have you no shame?

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Originally posted by generalissimo
oh so they break our laws and instead of condemning these violent thugs you propose a ban on flights to brazil? have you no shame?
YOUR laws?

Seems once the plane is out of US airspace, your laws don't apply anymore.


Regardless, why are air marshalls stopping people from getting a drink? Is this really what the air marshall's role is designed to do? Seems they should let the flight crew do their job and only interfer if the flight is hijacked.....

silicon valley

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Originally posted by uzless
YOUR laws?

Seems once the plane is out of US airspace, your laws don't apply anymore.


Regardless, why are air marshalls stopping people from getting a drink? Is this really what the air marshall's role is designed to do? Seems they should let the flight crew do their job and only interfer if the flight is hijacked.....
"The plane's crew asked air marshals to intervene"

silicon valley

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Originally posted by generalissimo
oh so they break our laws and instead of condemning these violent thugs you propose a ban on flights to brazil? have you no shame?
are the Brasilians up in arms about it, then?

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Pepperland

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
are the Brasilians up in arms about it, then?
not that I know of, no.

but this is besides the point, your proposal is obviously fueled by your prejudice and is totally unreasonable.

silicon valley

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what prejudice? maybe the prejudice is YOURS!

silicon valley

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do you often side with judges who misuse their office in this way? or is it only because the judge is Brasilian in this instance?

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Pepperland

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
do you often side with judges who misuse their office in this way? or is it only because the judge is Brasilian in this instance?
I don't see how this could possibly be considered abuse of power, sorry.

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Brazilians are the World's great partiers. No way we should be stopped from going there.

silicon valley

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Originally posted by generalissimo
I don't see how this could possibly be considered abuse of power, sorry.
so in general, air marshals shouldn't arrest drunk and assaultive passengers because they might happen to be the wives of Brasilian federal judges? because the air marshals themselves might be arrested on landing?

silicon valley

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Originally posted by badmoon
Brazilians are the World's great partiers. No way we should be stopped from going there.
maybe US flights could land in argentina and passengers could hop the train from there.

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
so in general, air marshals shouldn't arrest drunk and assaultive passengers because they might happen to be the wives of Brasilian federal judges? because the air marshals themselves might be arrested on landing?
I believe the air marshals could have taken a more reasonable approach in this case, the woman obviously wasn't a threat to anyone even if her conduct could have been better.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
I believe the air marshals could have taken a more reasonable approach in this case, the woman obviously wasn't a threat to anyone even if her conduct could have been better.
During the flight, a female passenger who appeared to be intoxicated tried to serve herself drinks by going to the plane's galley, one source said. The plane's crew asked air marshals to intervene, and two marshals approached the woman, who began struggling with them.

Two sources said the woman bit one of the air marshals, and she was handcuffed and placed under arrest.


If this is a true account, it seems to me that the marshals acted completely appropriately. OF course Z's proposal that we "ban flights to and from Brazil" is absurd, but arresting the air marshals was equally absurd. The authorities of the two countries need to get together and lay out the rules and procedures for this sort of situation.