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@wajoma saidMillions of people whose wannabe dictator lost the election the fact that they went along with and supported an attempt to disenfranchise 80million US voters does not imply that they actually BELIEVED there was election fraud on any real scale, you are the one claiming to read minds. Unless you have evidence of widespread electoral fraud then there was none as a matter of actual fact.
Nope that's not the way it works, you made the claim so tell us how you read the minds of millions of people and how they revealed their motivation to you.
This is going to be fun. The floor is yours.
haha, no need, we know you're full of shyte.
There were dozens of news orgs and bloggers and vloggers and personalities expressing doubt about all kinds of inconsiste ...[text shortened]... e drove the whole thing from a few tweets is...
you can fill in the blanks, I'm too busy larfing.
@moonbus said"All they presented were unsupported allegations. There was no fraud on a scale which tipped the election; get over it."
Millions of people suspecting fraud is the fraud Trump himself created in the minds of the gullible. Numerous recounts and audits detected no fraud on a scale which would have tipped the election in as much as a single district anywhere in the nation. 60 court cases were thrown out, not because the fraud level was insignificant, but because the lawyers bringing suit presented ...[text shortened]... were unsupported allegations. There was no fraud on a scale which tipped the election; get over it.
Saddam Hussein said the same thing. All they presented were unsupported allegations. Then they had the nerve to say it was a coverup. Get over it.
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@moonbus saidThat wasn't my point, it's a waste of time even discussing 'that' with happy clapper true believer state worshippers, I'll copy/paste wildgrass's statement again for the terminally slow.
Millions of people suspecting fraud is the fraud Trump himself created in the minds of the gullible. Numerous recounts and audits detected no fraud on a scale which would have tipped the election in as much as a single district anywhere in the nation. 60 court cases were thrown out, not because the fraud level was insignificant, but because the lawyers bringing suit presented ...[text shortened]... were unsupported allegations. There was no fraud on a scale which tipped the election; get over it.
"How shocking that millions of people still think the election was rigged, stolen, fraudulent based on the tweets of the one person who already knew he had lost."
There are legitimate reasons to question results regardless of who wins and it takes a lot more than a couple of tweets. That wildgrass, then sunstroke and now yourself wish to characterise it this way makes you three the gullible ones.
@wajoma saidits sad these libs cant see we are becoming a police state
That wasn't my point, it's a waste of time even discussing 'that' with happy clapper true believer state worshippers, I'll copy/paste wildgrass's statement again for the terminally slow.
"How shocking that millions of people still think the election was rigged, stolen, fraudulent based on the tweets of the one person who already knew he had lost."
There are legi ...[text shortened]... then sunstroke and now yourself wish to characterise it this way makes you three the gullible ones.
@mott-the-hoople saidOh they can see it dummy, why do you think they are opposing you and your dear leader in mar a largo
its sad these libs cant see we are becoming a police state
You are the police state in waiting and that will be made very clear in the election campaign of 2024
@wajoma saidIt all came from the tweets. This is not my opinion it is well documented. Trump told the DOJ office every day at the time, wanting them to "Just say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me."
That wasn't my point, it's a waste of time even discussing 'that' with happy clapper true believer state worshippers, I'll copy/paste wildgrass's statement again for the terminally slow.
"How shocking that millions of people still think the election was rigged, stolen, fraudulent based on the tweets of the one person who already knew he had lost."
There are legi ...[text shortened]... then sunstroke and now yourself wish to characterise it this way makes you three the gullible ones.
There were people in his campaign making the stuff up. You mentioned the "bloggers and vloggers" or whatever that you follow on the internet, and say maybe that's where folks got the disinformation from. That's fine. But those bloggers and vloggers got their info from Trump's tweets. He was on the phone with Hannity daily, discussing what to put on the news. It all leads there.
The rigged news narrative was predetermined by the Trump campaign. Again, not my opinion.
@mott-the-hoople saidSure you are.
its sad these libs cant see we are becoming a police state
Go to fukking China for a month.
Then, on your return, tell us if you still think the US is headed towards a police state.
Oh, and by the way, it’s your secret services you should be worried about.
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@wajoma saidThere is no legitimate reason to doubt the result of the 2020 election. The result was correct.
That wasn't my point, it's a waste of time even discussing 'that' with happy clapper true believer state worshippers, I'll copy/paste wildgrass's statement again for the terminally slow.
"How shocking that millions of people still think the election was rigged, stolen, fraudulent based on the tweets of the one person who already knew he had lost."
There are legi ...[text shortened]... then sunstroke and now yourself wish to characterise it this way makes you three the gullible ones.
There are, however, legitimate reasons, and mounting evidence and credible testimony, to hold Trump accountable for attempting to tip the legitimate result.
@moonbus
And anyone who believes Trump is complicit in the fraud, which is Trump lost and no amount of mewling about it will change that. The work has been done time and time again showing there was very little fraud in our elections, anyone who believes different has been well programmed by Trump and his buddies.
Something Sydney Powell just found out:
https://www.reuters.com/legal/former-trump-lawyer-powell-pleads-guilty-georgia-election-subversion-case-2023-10-19/#:~:text=The%20lawyer%2C%20Sidney%20Powell%2C%20pleaded,if%20prosecutors%20ask%20her%20too.
Ask HER how much election fraud there was, she was one of the perps involved in the false narrative and is now paying for it, getting off lightly with 6 years probation and a few thou fine.
She did the calculus where if she didn't plead out, she faced 20 years in the slammer and chose to save herself rather than taking a bullet for her boss Trump who will now be in even deeper legal doo doo as a result and the next question is how many more of the original 18 will plead out.
What I see happening is the DA getting kicked off the case by Georgia Trumpites in office who passed the law allowing them to remove any DA they want who is attacking their god king Trump. The question then is what happens to the case if they do that disgusting thing, using politics as a political weapon to defeat perceived enemies?
@mott-the-hoople saidIsn't it the non-libs shilling for more military and police and tough guy criminal penalties? Flying the blue flag?
its sad these libs cant see we are becoming a police state
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@wildgrass saidYou cannot 'document' peoples thoughts. That you think there are 'documents' that can attest to the thoughts and motivations of millions of people suggests your gullibility, no one else's.
It all came from the tweets. This is not my opinion it is well documented. Trump told the DOJ office every day at the time, wanting them to "Just say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me."
There were people in his campaign making the stuff up. You mentioned the "bloggers and vloggers" or whatever that you follow on the internet, and say maybe that's where folks got th ...[text shortened]... there.
The rigged news narrative was predetermined by the Trump campaign. Again, not my opinion.
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@wajoma saidNot the source of the thought, the source of the information. That was trump.The trump campaign was the source of information, no matter what vlogger they follow on tuk tok says.
You cannot 'document' peoples thoughts. That you think there are 'documents' that can attest to the thoughts and motivations of millions of people suggests your gullibility, no one else's.
@wajoma saidTrump and his co-conspirators are not charged with having false thoughts. They are charged with criminal actions.
You cannot 'document' peoples thoughts. That you think there are 'documents' that can attest to the thoughts and motivations of millions of people suggests your gullibility, no one else's.
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@sonhouse saidFrom the reuters article you linked to:
@moonbus
And anyone who believes Trump is complicit in the fraud, which is Trump lost and no amount of mewling about it will change that. The work has been done time and time again showing there was very little fraud in our elections, anyone who believes different has been well programmed by Trump and his buddies.
Something Sydney Powell just found out:
https://www.reut ...[text shortened]... if they do that disgusting thing, using politics as a political weapon to defeat perceived enemies?
"Powell's attorneys contested the charges in legal motions ahead of trial, arguing that access to voting equipment in Coffee County had been authorized."
This is a faulty defense and would not stand. It was most certainly not authorized by anyone who was herself authorized to allow access to people who had a clear partisan interest in tampering with voting machines. The person who permitted UNathorized access to those machines broke the law and is herself under indictment. I suspect that Powell's lawyers figured that out and opted for a plea bargain.