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  1. 21 Oct '17 13:57
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-attraction-doctor/201501/nice-guys-or-bad-boys-what-do-women-want%3famp


    This article makes perfect sense. Average women who want it all, but can't get it all because they aren't the complete package themselves.

    Solution, get the masculine traits from a one night stand, then try to find a good guy to finance you and your kid.
  2. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    It's only business
    21 Oct '17 17:49 / 1 edit
    Often its the rich guy who knocks up the girl and then she has to find a less rich man to help her raise the kid. Often the second guy is excessively angry and macho because of this.
  3. 21 Oct '17 17:52
    Originally posted by @athousandyoung
    Often its the rich guy who knocks up the girl and then she has to find a less rich man to help her raise the kid. Often the second guy is excessively angry and macho because of this.
    Many times it isn't rich guys. There are lots of poor guys in prison with babies with multiple girls.
  4. Standard member vivify
    rain
    21 Oct '17 19:29 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by @eladar
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-attraction-doctor/201501/nice-guys-or-bad-boys-what-do-women-want%3famp


    This article makes perfect sense. Average women who want it all, but can't get it all because they aren't the complete package themselves.

    Solution, get the masculine traits from a one night stand, then try to find a good guy to finance you and your kid.
    To be fair, men are the same way. We want the gorgeous nymphomaniac who likes making sandwiches. This is one of the reasons why men cheat on their partners.

    Anyway, I don't see what this has to do with the thread title about single moms. There are a lot of factors that go into this.
  5. 21 Oct '17 19:43
    Originally posted by @vivify
    To be fair, men are the same way. We want the gorgeous nymphomaniac who likes making sandwiches. This is one of the reasons why men cheat on their partners.

    Anyway, I don't see what this has to do with the thread title about single moms. There are a lot of factors that go into this.
    Did you read the link?

    Girls find guys that they want to get pregnant by, but the guy doesn't want a long term relationship with her. Nor does he have the stable income or the desire to be a day in day out dad.

    So she gets pregnant, he predictably dumps her or she dumps him to find a better sugar daddy.

    The single mom situation is created by women who want to have it all, but transitions between multiple men to achieve it.
  6. Subscriber KingDavid403
    King David
    21 Oct '17 20:05
    Originally posted by @eladar
    Did you read the link?

    Girls find guys that they want to get pregnant by, but the guy doesn't want a long term relationship with her. Nor does he have the stable income or the desire to be a day in day out dad.

    So she gets pregnant, he predictably dumps her or she dumps him to find a better sugar daddy.

    The single mom situation is created by women who want to have it all, but transitions between multiple men to achieve it.
    That's a nice little small box that you've painted yourself in. It's hilarious to me how you have painted yourself and the world a victim of women. Get a clue, it takes two people (man and woman) to make a single mom no matter how much you snivel otherwise.
  7. Standard member vivify
    rain
    21 Oct '17 20:19 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by @eladar
    Did you read the link?

    Girls find guys that they want to get pregnant by, but the guy doesn't want a long term relationship with her. Nor does he have the stable income or the desire to be a day in day out dad.

    So she gets pregnant, he predictably dumps her or she dumps him to find a better sugar daddy.

    The single mom situation is created by women who want to have it all, but transitions between multiple men to achieve it.
    Yes, I read the article. I'm saying that men are no different. Just like women, they also strive to get the best traits, and put themselves in the same situation as women.

    Obviously, if there are single moms, there are also single dads.
  8. 21 Oct '17 20:27 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by @vivify to Eladar
    To be fair, men are the same way. We want the gorgeous nymphomaniac who likes making sandwiches.
    This is one of the reasons why men cheat on their partners.

    Anyway, I don't see what this has to do with the thread title about single moms. There are a lot of factors that go into this.
    "We [men] want the gorgeous nymphomaniac who likes making sandwiches."
    --Vivify

    How many men really want to marry that woman rather than just fantasizing about her?

    "This is one of the reasons why men cheat on their partners."
    --Vivify

    How many "gorgeous nymphomaniacs who like making sandwiches" does Vivify
    imagine are ready to make themselves available for affairs with married men?
  9. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    It's only business
    21 Oct '17 20:35 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by @eladar
    Did you read the link?

    Girls find guys that they want to get pregnant by, but the guy doesn't want a long term relationship with her. Nor does he have the stable income or the desire to be a day in day out dad.

    So she gets pregnant, he predictably dumps her or she dumps him to find a better sugar daddy.

    The single mom situation is created by women who want to have it all, but transitions between multiple men to achieve it.
    Originally posted by @eladar

    Girls find guys that they want to get pregnant by, but the guy doesn't want a long term relationship with her.


    Correct.

    Nor does he have the stable income or the desire to be a day in day out dad.

    Often he does have a stable income which is why she picked him in the first place.

    So she gets pregnant, he predictably dumps her or she dumps him to find a better sugar daddy.

    He generally dumps her because she’s not socially acceptable wife material and he doesn’t want to use his money raising a bastard when he could instead be even richer.

    The single mom situation is created by women who want to have it all, but transitions between multiple men to achieve it.

    Because the fathers of these babies dump the women and claim it’s not their kid.
  10. Standard member vivify
    rain
    21 Oct '17 20:42
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    "We [men] want the gorgeous nymphomaniac who likes making sandwiches."
    --Vivify

    How many men really want to marry that woman rather than just fantasizing about her?

    "This is one of the reasons why men cheat on their partners."
    --Vivify

    How many "gorgeous nymphomaniacs who like making sandwiches" does Vivify
    imagine are ready to make themselves available for affairs with married men?
    The article mentions that women want a "bad boy".
    We can also ask the question, "how many women really want to marry that man rather than just fantasize about him?"

    As for "how many" such women will accept married men? I guess it depends on the married man. Rich married men have no trouble getting such women.
  11. 21 Oct '17 20:54 / 4 edits
    Originally posted by @vivify
    The article mentions that women want a "bad boy".
    We can also ask the question, "how many women really want to marry that man rather than just fantasize about him?"

    As for "how many" such women will accept married men? I guess it depends on the married man. Rich married men have no trouble getting such women.
    "As for "how many" such women will accept married men?"
    --Vivify

    Vivify misunderstands my question. It's really about how many "gorgeous nymphomaniacs
    who like making sandwiches" does Vivify imagine *even exist*?

    I don't recall meeting any woman who seriously described herself as a 'gorgeous nymphomaniac'.
    I can recall a woman joking that *if* she were a 'gorgeous nymphomaniac', she would not have
    to 'make sandwiches' (non-sexual context) because her lover(s) could pay someone to do that

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Make_me_a_sandwich

    "Make me a sandwich is a catchphrase used in popular culture, often on the internet, to
    mock or discredit women. It is a play on the stereotype that women belong in the kitchen."

    This thread, among many others, shows how little most men here understand about women.
    Actually, few women (including professional models or actresses) sincerely regard themselves as 'gorgeous'.
    More often, women tend to be insecure about failing to conform to their culture's standards of beauty
    and focus upon their perceived imperfections. This fear may drive a pattern of eating disorders.
  12. 21 Oct '17 21:00
    Originally posted by @kingdavid403
    That's a nice little small box that you've painted yourself in. It's hilarious to me how you have painted yourself and the world a victim of women. Get a clue, it takes two people (man and woman) to make a single mom no matter how much you snivel otherwise.
    How is that? I am not the type to father a bunch of kids I do not support.

    Women are the ones making the choice to get pregnant by men who don't want them.
  13. 21 Oct '17 21:03 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by @athousandyoung
    Originally posted by @eladar

    Girls find guys that they want to get pregnant by, but the guy doesn't want a long term relationship with her.


    Correct.

    Nor does he have the stable income or the desire to be a day in day out dad.

    Often he does have a stable income which is why she picked him in the first place.

    So she get ...[text shortened]... ieve it.

    Because the fathers of these babies dump the women and claim it’s not their kid.
    Women choose to have sex with flaky guys although they see these men are not the father types.

    They could find less good looking and less exciting men who would adore them for life. They only turn to these guys after they get pregnant by the attractive guys.
  14. 21 Oct '17 21:10 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by @eladar to AThousandYoung
    Women choose to have sex with flaky guys although they see these men are not the father types.

    They could find less good looking and less exciting men who would adore them for life.
    They only turn to these guys after they get pregnant by the attractive guys.
    When a man complains that women are 'too choosy', he usually means that women don't choose him.
  15. Standard member vivify
    rain
    21 Oct '17 21:44
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    Vivify misunderstands my question. It's really about how many "gorgeous nymphomaniacs
    who like making sandwiches" does Vivify imagine *even exist*?
    That was hyperbolic.