05 Mar 05
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Originally posted by ivanhoeI will bet you two things.
The Syrian president Assad is now live adressing Syrian "Parliament".
The speech is covered by CNN.
That he offers to withdraw from the border.
That the "border" somehow manages to leave the Bekaa valley in Syrian control.
What is so solid about the Bekaa valley?
Well. Remember all those chemical and bio weapons that the UN said were declared by Saddam that are no longer in Iraq?
What do you think happened to them? They went to the nearest commie nation. ERRRR! EXCUSE ME!. The nearest friendly nation. Syria.
Now. If you were Syria, would you run the risk of having all that "Stuff" stored in bunkers on your soil? Or would you store it in occupied Lebanon?
Just wondering. I think I would put it in the Bekaa valley, knowing that even should I be forced to live up to the 1988 UN treaty, I could still have access to "it" and "it" would not be on MY soil.
But then, I'm a sneaky bastard. Maybe Assad isn't as sneaky as I am. Maybe.
05 Mar 05
Originally posted by ivanhoeFor those interested in the punch line: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7023538/
The Syrian president Assad is now live adressing Syrian "Parliament".
The speech is covered by CNN.
It has typical, anti-Arab sentiment (Syria's supposed "decisive domination" of Lebanon's leaders, who are actually freely elected by the Lebanese people) but at least presents some of the Syrian side. The bottom line is that Syria will take some steps to withdraw some troops back to the border area now and will withdraw all its troops when the Lebanese government tells it to. Full elections in Lebanon are due in the next month or two, so no real "crisis" exists, just another attempt to bully a couple of small Arab states that are unfriendly to the US occupation of Iraq and the Israeli occupation of Palestinian land. Same old, same old.
05 Mar 05
Originally posted by no1marauderThank you STANG junior for that wonderfull analysis. We coudn't have done it without you.
For those interested in the punch line: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7023538/
It has typical, anti-Arab sentiment (Syria's supposed "decisive domination" of Lebanon's leaders, who are actually freely elected by the Lebanese people) but at least presents some of the Syrian side. The bottom line is that Syria will take some steps to wit ...[text shortened]... to the US occupation of Iraq and the Israeli occupation of Palestinian land. Same old, same old.
05 Mar 05
Originally posted by StarValleyWyJust for interest - is the Deseret Chemical Depot ( 13 616 tonnes of blister and nerve agent in cartridges, projectiles and spray tanks) or the Pueblo Chemical Depot (2 611 tonnes of blister agentg) anywhere near where you live?
I will bet you two things.
That he offers to withdraw from the border.
That the "border" somehow manages to leave the Bekaa valley in Syrian control.
What is so solid about the Bekaa valley?
Well. Remember all those chemical and bio weapons that the UN said were declared by Saddam that are no longer in Iraq?
What do you think happened t ...[text shortened]... be on MY soil.
But then, I'm a sneaky bastard. Maybe Assad isn't as sneaky as I am. Maybe.
Not just the Syrians who like to store chemical weapons in the desert.
06 Mar 05
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Originally posted by steerpikeWill it really surprise you to know that the 30,000 tonnes have really been destroyed?
Nice to know the 30 000 tonnes of chemical weapons stcokpiled in the US have been destroyed. Especially as the weapons age and psoe a greater danger in storage.
With those thousands of nuclear weapons still in the stockpile, they are not even necessary,
Except where the left wing environmental nuts have expended millions of dollars to prevent said destruction?
See george soros.
Tennesee is fighting him now. He wants to fight it. Why?
Think about that. Research it.
That is all that you and I can do.
We (in Utah, the BIGGEST ARSINAL) finished destroying the million tonnes of chem/bio bombs in april last.
Why? Were we pour souls able to do it when george soros is able to stall it in Tennessee?
If you will sir. Research it. Tell us.
06 Mar 05
Originally posted by StarValleyWySince the US set a precedent by protecting Japanese war criminals and using their work in their early biological weapons programme - 'their Japanese colleagues had gained invaluable insights into how the human body reacted to certain pathogens' - do you think the US is now employing former Iraqi bio and chemical weapons experts?
Will it really surprise you to know that the 30,000 tonnes have really been destroyed?
Except where the left wing environmental nuts have expended millions of dollars to prevent said destruction?
See george soros.
Tennesee is fighting him now. He wants to fight it. Why?
Think about that. Research it.
That is all that you and I can do.
...[text shortened]... it when george soros is able to stall it in Tennessee?
If you will sir. Research it. Tell us.
06 Mar 05
Originally posted by steerpikeYou are lighting up the wrong torch.
Since the US set a precedent by protecting Japanese war criminals and using their work in their early biological weapons programme - 'their Japanese colleagues had gained invaluable insights into how the human body reacted to certain pathogens' - do you think the US is now employing former Iraqi bio and chemical weapons experts?
I thought it wrong the first time I considered it,and I still do.
But... you failed to give a source for the mentioned atrocity.
Dare you give it? Go ahead. Let's see the nazi symp that you choose to follow.
Just post the source of your all knowing wisdom. Thanks.
We willl all just glomb onto it in a monent. really. Much as you hate the notion.
We really will watch for your next post. Thanks.
06 Mar 05
Originally posted by StarValleyWyNo, the nazis were the Germans who worked on the rocket programme. Guys like SS Major Werner von Braun who joined the Nazi party in 1937 and built the V2 for Hitler. The Sturmbannführer bought a hundred of his colleagues to build rockets for the US and became the first director of NASA.
You are lighting up the wrong torch.
I thought it wrong the first time I considered it,and I still do.
But... you failed to give a source for the mentioned atrocity.
Dare you give it? Go ahead. Let's see the nazi symp that you choose to follow.
Just post the source of your all knowing wisdom. Thanks.
We willl all just glomb onto it in a monent. really. Much as you hate the notion.
We really will watch for your next post. Thanks.
The Japanese did their work in Unit 731 where they experimented and slaughtered 10 000 prisoners and worked on plague bombs.They aslo dropped bio agents on civilians, killing a quarter of a million.The Japanese doctors killed many more than Mengele - but they never faced a Nuremberg type of trial from Macarthur. They were protected - but there was a soviet trial.
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?eo20010605a1.htm
06 Mar 05
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Originally posted by steerpikeYou state my point more eloquently than I ever could.
No, the nazis were the Germans who worked on the rocket programme. Guys like SS Major Werner von Braun who joined the Nazi party in 1937 and built the V2 for Hitler. The Sturmbannführer bought a hundred of his colleagues to build rocket ...[text shortened]... w.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?eo20010605a1.htm
"after so many absolute 'screw-ups' it behooves us to finally make a stand for right and the common people."
That is what I think Bush is trying to do now.
I might be wrong. But I might be right too. I really loath Henry Kissinger and the old conservatives. They thought that by leaving Saddam as a slave master, the world would "somehow" be approving of it.
Only monsters thought that. Slavery is just plain wrong.
Definition of a "Dictator".
"One who can put his police into the street at any given moment to capture any soul, whether that soul be innocent or guilty -- and dispose of the catch as a whim."
Not?
06 Mar 05
Originally posted by StarValleyWyTrue. But the worst dictators always believe in a cause. Aryan supremacy, Baathism, Marxism. Imperialism. Motives like that justify killing those who oppose your noble visions.
You state my point more eloquently than I ever could.
"after so many absolute 'screw-ups' it behooves us to finally make a stand for right and the common people."
That is what I think Bush is trying to do now.
I might be wrong. But I might be right too. I really loath Henry Kissinger and the old conservatives. They thought that by leaving ...[text shortened]... y soul, whether that soul be innocent or guilty -- and dispose of the catch as a whim."
Not?
Those old screwups were idealogical. They knew it was wrong to support Pol Pot but he fought the Vietnamese. Even a democracy can do evil if the means are seen to justify the ends.
06 Mar 05
Originally posted by steerpikeI can not argue. I see the results of the attack on the french fleet in Africa.
True. But the worst dictators always believe in a cause. Aryan supremacy, Baathism, Marxism. Imperialism. Motives like that justify killing those who oppose your noble visions.
Those old screwups were idealogical. They knew it was wrong to support Pol Pot but he fought the Vietnamese. Even a democracy can do evil if the means are seen to justify the ends.
And I see that many times people screw up in a big way.
All that we poor stupid chimps can do is try to not screw up.
What is the worst screw up you can think of?
A betrayal of your friends?
That is the state of chimp civilization. All we have is our tribe. And a few mates to help us in case we are attacked.