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Technocracy, Inc.:  Urbanates

Technocracy, Inc.: Urbanates

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who wouldn't wanna live in an urbanate?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technocracy_Incorporated#Urbanates:_A_technocratic_replacement_for_cities

Urbanates: A technocratic replacement for cities
Once a technate has been established Technocracy Incorporated advocates an entirely new form of living environment called Urbanates. An Urbanate is essentially an assembly of buildings where people live and work. These places would have all the facilities needed for a community, including schools, hospitals, shopping malls, waste management and recycling facilities, sports centres, and public areas.

Technocrats plan for Urbanates to be something akin to resorts, designed to give each citizen the highest standard of living possible. Getting around in an Urbanate would be inherently easy and efficient. Every kind of major facility would be placed within walking distance of a housing complex, eliminating the need for cars.

Urbanates would be connected via a continent-wide transportation network envisioned by Technocracy, which would involve a High-speed rail network linking every Urbanate, the Continental Hydrology (a massive Canal network), and air transport. These systems would also be connected to the Technate's industrial sites for easy transport of goods to consumers, and to all recreational and vacation areas of the continent.

The reason given by Technate advocates for all this ambitious restructuring of urban life is that modern cities are often extremely poorly planned and built in a haphazard way leading to major inefficiencies, waste, and large numbers of social and environmental problems. Technocrats believe that rather than trying to solve all these problems within the framework of existing cities, it is best to start with a clean slate and construct Urbanates when needed.

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
who wouldn't wanna live in an urbanate?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technocracy_Incorporated#Urbanates:_A_technocratic_replacement_for_cities

Urbanates: A technocratic replacement for cities
Once a technate has been established Technocracy Incorporated advocates an entirely new form of living environment called Urbanates. An Urbanate is essentially ...[text shortened]... f existing cities, it is best to start with a clean slate and construct Urbanates when needed.
Sounds good to me. All the comforts and social interaction you need with as
little effect on the natural environment as possible. It's a dream, right? It's
not really about to happen, is it?

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
who wouldn't wanna live in an urbanate?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technocracy_Incorporated#Urbanates:_A_technocratic_replacement_for_cities

Urbanates: A technocratic replacement for cities
Once a technate has been established Technocracy Incorporated advocates an entirely new form of living environment called Urbanates. An Urbanate is essentially ...[text shortened]... f existing cities, it is best to start with a clean slate and construct Urbanates when needed.
Would there be some sort of maximum population density permitted? If you pack an Urbanite with people it will be a ghetto too.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Would there be some sort of maximum population density permitted? If you pack an Urbanite with people it will be a ghetto too.
the problem is not the density, it's the education quality at the K-6 level, and cultural mores.

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Originally posted by Jigtie
Sounds good to me. All the comforts and social interaction you need with as
little effect on the natural environment as possible. It's a dream, right? It's
not really about to happen, is it?
i have hopes for Redmike. why dream about the future when you can live it?

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
the problem is not the density, it's the education quality at the K-6 level, and cultural mores.
The problem with what is not the density?

Population density causes problems. More people means less street parking, smaller apartments, more conflict between people, more competition for everything. It makes disease spread more easily, allows criminals to blend in to the community more easily, slows down transportation due to traffic, etc. High population density encourages loud, obnoxious behavior because the squeakiest wheel gets the grease. Children raised in this kind of environment damage the quality of K-6 education by being loud and disruptive. Their cultural mores are more likely to involve a "dog eat dog" view of the world since they have to compete for everything.

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My coworker says they have these things in Florida and downtown LA. He really talks them up. They sound pretty cool. He describes how people effectively have a movie theater, basketball court, pool, transportation lines etc. built into their apartment building.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
The problem with what is not the density?

Population density causes problems. More people means less street parking, smaller apartments, more conflict between people, more competition for everything. It makes disease spread more easily, allows criminals to blend in to the community more easily, slows down transportation due to traffic, etc. High ...[text shortened]... likely to involve a "dog eat dog" view of the world since they have to compete for everything.
why doesn't everyone who comes from HongKong act like that, then?

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
My coworker says they have these things in Florida and downtown LA. He really talks them up. They sound pretty cool. He describes how people effectively have a movie theater, basketball court, pool, transportation lines etc. built into their apartment building.
links? ...

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
links? ...
I don't have any. This is entirely hearsay.

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
why doesn't everyone who comes from HongKong act like that, then?
or Japan? ....

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
why doesn't everyone who comes from HongKong act like that, then?
Massive amounts of law enforcement and imprisonment.

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
or Japan? ....
Massive amounts of law enforcement and imprisonment.

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? ... not really .... 5 cops per thousand persons in HK doesn't really count as "massive" ... and Japan at #40 has 1.8 / thousand ...


http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_pol_percap-crime-police-per-capita

Showing latest available data. Rank Countries Amount (top to bottom)
#1 Montserrat: 7.81501 per 1,000 people
#2 Mauritius: 7.28432 per 1,000 people
#3 Dominica: 6.40311 per 1,000 people
#4 Italy: 5.55565 per 1,000 people
#5 Hong Kong: 4.79374 per 1,000 people
#6 Macedonia, The Former Yugoslav Republic of: 4.7868 per 1,000 people
#7 Portugal: 4.64878 per 1,000 people
#8 Kazakhstan: 4.54998 per 1,000 people
#9 Latvia: 4.51878 per 1,000 people
#10 Czech Republic: 4.47613 per 1,000 people
#11 Slovakia: 3.72086 per 1,000 people
#12 Lithuania: 3.53934 per 1,000 people
#13 Malaysia: 3.43936 per 1,000 people
#14 Thailand: 3.35665 per 1,000 people
#15 Kyrgyzstan: 3.25049 per 1,000 people
#16 Slovenia: 3.14023 per 1,000 people
#17 Moldova: 3.01481 per 1,000 people
#18 Germany: 2.91153 per 1,000 people
#19 Ireland: 2.8989 per 1,000 people
#20 Hungary: 2.88528 per 1,000 people
#21 Spain: 2.86696 per 1,000 people
#22 South Africa: 2.7668 per 1,000 people
#23 Estonia: 2.72543 per 1,000 people
#24 Poland: 2.61367 per 1,000 people
#25 Jamaica: 2.57054 per 1,000 people
#26 Georgia: 2.46034 per 1,000 people
#27 Norway: 2.42412 per 1,000 people
#28 Turkey: 2.38057 per 1,000 people
#29 Iceland: 2.24441 per 1,000 people
#30 Romania: 2.18728 per 1,000 people
#31 Colombia: 2.12215 per 1,000 people
#32 Australia: 2.09293 per 1,000 people
#33 France: 2.049 per 1,000 people
#34 United Kingdom: 2.04871 per 1,000 people
#35 Switzerland: 1.93617 per 1,000 people
#36 Netherlands: 1.92448 per 1,000 people
#37 Denmark: 1.91716 per 1,000 people
#38 Chile: 1.85583 per 1,000 people
#39 Korea, South: 1.85461 per 1,000 people
#40 Japan: 1.81103 per 1,000 people
#41 Sri Lanka: 1.72484 per 1,000 people
#42 Canada: 1.70767 per 1,000 people
#43 Zimbabwe: 1.68859 per 1,000 people
#44 Finland: 1.56347 per 1,000 people
#45 Zambia: 1.13674 per 1,000 people
#46 Papua New Guinea: 0.985032 per 1,000 people
#47 India: 0.956207 per 1,000 people
#48 Costa Rica: 0.370767 per 1,000 people
Weighted average: 3.0 per 1,000 people

SOURCE: Seventh United Nations Survey of Crime Trends and Operations of Criminal Justice Systems, covering the period 1998 - 2000 (United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, Centre for International Crime Prevention)

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re incarceration, japan is #126 with 54 prisoners / 100K pop, US is at #1 with 715 prisoners / 100K pop, and HK is not in the list at nationmaster ...



http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_pri_per_cap-crime-prisoners-per-capita

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