The orange stable genius has figured something out. If Hillary was unfit for office, due to having an indictment hanging over her head, then he is equally unfit for office, for the same reason. Ergo, "I didn't say, 'lock her up!'" Too bad for him that cameras were rolling.
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/02/politics/fact-check-trump-false-claim-lock-up-hillary-clinton/index.html?iid=cnn_buildContentRecirc_end_recirc
My, how malleable memory is, when one's words come back to haunt one ....
@moonbus saidThe problem here is not a politician lying. The problem is that the journalists let the politician get away with it.
The orange stable genius has figured something out. If Hillary was unfit for office, due to having an indictment hanging over her head, then he is equally unfit for office, for the same reason. Ergo, "I didn't say, 'lock her up!'" Too bad for him that cameras were rolling.
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/02/politics/fact-check-trump-false-claim-lock-up-hillary-clinton/inde ...[text shortened]... ontentRecirc_end_recirc
My, how malleable memory is, when one's words come back to haunt one ....
Besides the gorgeous irony and hypocrisy of the maga crowd screaming: “Lock her up” and going after Hunter Biden with a vengeance and openly proclaiming they want to lock the Clintons, Obama and the Bidens up and then screaming blue murder over the trump convictions and that it is a political show trial, there is a far more serious issue at play here.
How come Jon Stewart, a comedian, can ask the proper questions and pin point inaccuracies, lies and hypcrisy; on all sides, but the journalists can’t?
trump literally said to 3 journalists: “The crowd said ‘lock her up.’ I didn’t.”
It’s there on Fox news for all to see.
There are multiple cases, recorded, of him saying it exactly, referring to it and using synonimes of it.. and not 1 of the 3 journalists pulled him up on it.
How? How is that bloody possible.
We see it in England. We see it in the Netherlands too. It’s like journalism today is about something else than actually holding people accountable.
Pathetic. And it allows for the whole double narrative and polarisation to continue.
It, seen from an historic perspective, is extremely dangerous.
@shavixmir said“Fake News” indeed. Journalists have been smitten by a collective fit of cowardice when confronted with this mad demagogue. Suing the pants off Fox obviously didn’t teach them anything. Send them all back to journalism school, I say, they must have slept through journalism ethics class the first time.
The problem here is not a politician lying. The problem is that the journalists let the politician get away with it.
Besides the gorgeous irony and hypocrisy of the maga crowd screaming: “Lock her up” and going after Hunter Biden with a vengeance and openly proclaiming they want to lock the Clintons, Obama and the Bidens up and then screaming blue murder over the trump c ...[text shortened]... tive and polarisation to continue.
It, seen from an historic perspective, is extremely dangerous.
The post that was quoted here has been removedI certainly wouldn’t rely on AI for non-bias reporting.
And yes, it does seem that journalists are not taking their jobs seriously; but mingling it with personal opinions, the network wishes and pandering to the audience.
And it’s not really difficult to contradict bare-faced lies. Like in the case we’re discussing. They only needed to say: “But you did say that.”
And that is what journalism is supposed to be.
The post that was quoted here has been removedJournalists are supposed to get to the truth of what happened or what's happening.
If they know something is a lie, they have to confront it. No matter if it's trump, Biden or Santa bloody Claus.
I'm not asking journalists to throw soft balls at anyone. That's for talk show hosts to do.
@shavixmir saidI believe it started with Dan Rather.
And yes, it does seem that journalists are not taking their jobs seriously; but mingling it with personal opinions, the network wishes and pandering to the audience.
Before that, if an anchor like David Brinkley wanted to voice an opinion, some blocky early-graphics-era text would appear at the bottom of the screen that indicated this was 'an editorial'. 'Editorializing' was considered bad form for ANY journalist, and especially major TV anchors.
Dan Rather broke that tradition, and not voicing your own opinion went down like the Fairness Doctrine. Floodgates opened and 'The Nightly News' became more 'Entertainment Tonight'.
OUS outlets have resisted to some degree - Al Jazeera doesn't editorialize that I have noticed. BBC is also pretty good.
@spruce112358 saidThe BBC have exceptionally good news and indepth programmes, but their mainstream news does have a pro British-establishment bias.
I believe it started with Dan Rather.
Before that, if an anchor like David Brinkley wanted to voice an opinion, some blocky early-graphics-era text would appear at the bottom of the screen that indicated this was 'an editorial'. 'Editorializing' was considered bad form for ANY journalist, and especially major TV anchors.
Dan Rather broke that tradition, and not voi ...[text shortened]... isted to some degree - Al Jazeera doesn't editorialize that I have noticed. BBC is also pretty good.
Journalists having an opinion isn’t a bad thing. It’s when they voice it as objective, or let their opinions sway their questioning, when it gets mirky.
Even worse is when the network they are on is influencing the questioning. You want journalists digging, no matter who the subject matter is.
@eYe saidOne major problem with AI is that it hallucinates. I would not trust artificially intelligent news reporting farther than I can spit.
Journalists are biased on both sides.
I would say put A.I. in there so you would have unopinionated news reporting but whoever made the A.I. would implement biased opinions.
I personally believe op-eds ruined the news.