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  1. Standard member bill718
    Enigma
    26 Jul '13 17:39
    Debate over the affordable care act (The GOP has branded as Obamacare) has become so bitter, and the arguments against it so toxic and nasty, that even a modest success of this program would leave those arguing against it looking pretty silly. The success or failure of this program may very well decide the outcome of the 2016 election, and shape the political landscape for many years to come. I don't know if this program will be looked upon as a success or not, but candidates from both sides may have staked their political futures on this one issue, weather they wanted to do so or not. The next 3 years will be pretty interesting...

    http://news.yahoo.com/gop-guaranteeing-obamacare-success-162600918.html
  2. 26 Jul '13 17:43
    If it is so great, then why isn't obama implementing it?
  3. 26 Jul '13 20:20
    I have a question for you, why do you not question the name 'affordable care act'?

    What's in a name? The title sure sounds nice, but why give it that name before we see what it actually is? Obviously those who passed it had no idea what it said.
  4. 27 Jul '13 02:36 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Eladar
    I have a question for you, why do you not question the name 'affordable care act'?

    What's in a name? The title sure sounds nice, but why give it that name before we see what it actually is? Obviously those who passed it had no idea what it said.
    It's like renaming nuclear weapons the happy mushroom.
  5. 27 Jul '13 02:39 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by Eladar
    If it is so great, then why isn't obama implementing it?
    Because if it is too good, then people may suffer from organsmic heart failure?
  6. 28 Jul '13 20:49
    Looking at lack of response from the lefties in this thread, including the person who started it, I guess the warnings are not too dire.
  7. 02 Aug '13 16:28 / 1 edit
    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/congress-to-get-obamacare-exemption-report-2013-08-02?dist=tcountdown


    If it is so great for the rest of us, then why is Congress exempting itself out of it? Is it because there is one set of rules for the Federal Government and another set of rules for the rest of us? Echoes of the New Class.
  8. 02 Aug '13 16:41
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Looking at lack of response from the lefties in this thread, including the person who started it, I guess the warnings are not too dire.
    The warnings are not coming exclusively from the right.
  9. 02 Aug '13 18:24
    Originally posted by normbenign
    The warnings are not coming exclusively from the right.
    Yeah, but the only people supporting it are duped people on the left, you know people like Bill.
  10. 02 Aug '13 18:27
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Yeah, but the only people supporting it are duped people on the left, you know people like Bill.
    Harry Reid is calling it a "train wreck".
  11. 02 Aug '13 18:49
    Originally posted by normbenign
    Harry Reid is calling it a "train wreck".
    Harry Reid was one of it's greatest proponents wasn't he?
  12. 02 Aug '13 19:55
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Looking at lack of response from the lefties in this thread, including the person who started it, I guess the warnings are not too dire.
    They are encouraging the warnings to become so dire that any modest success will invalidate the opposition. That's the point.
  13. 02 Aug '13 19:58 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by normbenign
    Harry Reid is calling it a "train wreck".
    ... if it's not implemented properly.

    People hear what they want to hear.

    http://live.huffingtonpost.com/r/archive/segment/harry-reid-talks-obamacare-on-radio-show/5182f4c22b8c2a15290002fd
  14. 02 Aug '13 20:21
    If it is implemented properly, famous last words of a true believer.
  15. Standard member bill718
    Enigma
    02 Aug '13 20:44
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Yeah, but the only people supporting it are duped people on the left, you know people like Bill.
    Eladar- Oh, come on...you're just saying that to be nice!