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Originally posted by Bosse de NagePopulation doesn't need to grow for my point to hold.
For many of the societies in question, a symbiotic relationship with nature precluded large population growth. For corn-fed city dwellers like the Mayans, the situation was different, but they had gone beyond the tribal stage. As for the good-will issue, well, yes, that all became clear post-Columbus!
I think the house of cards is always going to to amines are probably more profitable for a certain brand of capitalism than peace and stability.
If it shrinks, then obviously that society is doomed to disappear, but even if population is kept constant the point remains, since every new born is a new entrant.
You'd need a society that culturally is able to remove all or most of the selfishness characteristics of its members. Personally, I think mankind needs an evolutionary step before such selfishnessless is sustainable.
Edit - And I fully agree with your other point. I think that the concentration forces under Capitalism (read libertarianism) are conducive to Plutocracies. Of course, this makes sense to me as I believe that not only social democracies are an imperfect but good way of distributing resources, but also one where the legitimacy of governments can be sustainable. A natural distrust of government, from which stems the will to impose mechanisms that control it, is also essential in my view.
Edit 2 - This point of distrusting government is one of the things I admire the most in the principles on which the US was founded.
Originally posted by SoothfastOK. There's no money in the society, correct? John Doe wakes up in the morning.Goes to brush his teeth. A water pipe has broken. Does he call a plumber to repair it, no money exchanging hands? I have decided to get a job. I go down to the local steel mill to work. Do they put me to work even though they have enough people to handle production already? If not, do i try the local bakery.....and so on. Or, is a job assigned to me by a committee? I go to the local grocery store to by food. Do i have a ration card that specifies what a can have? Can i have more food because i need more to satisfy my hunger. I decide Not to work because i will get the same benefits anyway. My friends see this and do the same! Are there police who make you go to work? What about trade with other Nations? Do we barter with them, presuming this society has not yet spread world wide? ETC, Etc, etc!
I know, and I'm a little frustrated by my lack of time to get into these matters right now. The life of the ordinary citizen in an anarchosyndicalist society would quite simply be the life he or she would want to live -- or at least as close to the desired ideal as can be made possible within the confines of earthly reality and the individual's own innate ...[text shortened]... s the ideas and ideals of libertarian communism more within humanity's reach than ever.
Originally posted by smw6869I can supply my insights to most of those questions (I've encountered them before)...but at a later date.
OK. There's no money in the society, correct? John Doe wakes up in the morning.Goes to brush his teeth. A water pipe has broken. Does he call a plumber to repair it, no money exchanging hands? I have decided to get a job. I go down to the local steel mill to work. Do they put me to work even though they have enough people to handle production already? If not ...[text shortened]... s? Do we barter with them, presuming this society has not yet spread world wide? ETC, Etc, etc!