Originally posted by whodeyIs it really that common for employers in the US to drug test their employees? I don't know of any employer here that does it.
The people that I know that smoke it, their whole lives revolve around pot. All of their money goes towards it, so they are always broke, and none of them can hold down decent jobs because of drug testing. All they do is plot a scheme to earn enough money to get high again.
I find it all pretty sad and pathetic myself.
As for the legalization of it, w ...[text shortened]... g money is flowing to politicians under the table. If so, why on earth would they legalize it?
Originally posted by kmax87the circular flow of income! yes they would a bit.
would you tax it like tobacco
i wouldn't legalise it for tax - its just a basic choice.
But seriously in the UK and Holland quality cannabis costs more per gram then gold, you can sell gold on the highstreet for c£10 per gram but you will probably get less then that for £10 with some types of cannabis - go to holland and you can see for yourself, just the lucky dutch have cheap ones too. But surely you can find a margin in that!
You are dealing with 7 million, if i repeated that 7 million times maybe people would get the point, i think politics is dead without this issue, the US have taken it on. And i will simply vote UKIP for everything until there is a decent cannabis party. ukip as they are the only party not fascist towards smokers. If they take it on i wouldn't shift allegiance just on this issue but they must and soon it makes trash of the economy when it can easily be better.
i don't want to vote for a legalise cannabis party but for 1 election to give them the boot i would. and UKIP actualy is the closest mainstream alternative. (what have the 'liberals?' done... nothing) I think Mr Farage has some respect for smokers even if he's not pro cannabis, i hope he is. Its not that I'm anti the first minister both have bigger issues they want to deal with and they don't compete much. But the black tobacco packs will create another black market when we need rid of this one. Washington, washington! has managed but we fail to even discuss it in politics and for me personally it makes the whole UK undesirable to live. I tried to move to holland but in the end I went for scotland but things are far from perfect here and worse down south on this issue.
It's unfortunate AV got voted down in that referendum, you'd have more to choose rather than feeling the need to vote for the morons of the UKIP out of protest. What was up with that anyway? If someone offers me either 100 bucks or a punch in the face I'm surely not going to go for the punch, but I guess two thirds of the British populace is a little masochistic.
Originally posted by KazetNagorraNigel Farage speaks his mind, is pro smokers when even the so called liberals act like nazis and strikes a chord with the retired generation who are mostly euro skeptic.
It's unfortunate AV got voted down in that referendum, you'd have more to choose rather than feeling the need to vote for the morons of the UKIP out of protest. What was up with that anyway? If someone offers me either 100 bucks or a punch in the face I'm surely not going to go for the punch, but I guess two thirds of the British populace is a little masochistic.
If the liberals don't buck up there act and learn how to spell liberal they might be handing there seats to him at the next election.
Originally posted by KazetNagorraAbsolutely. Is it the other reason that I don't see it becoming legal in the US. After all, if you were an employer and you had to choose between two equal candidates with one who liked getting stoned and the other not, who would you hire?
Is it really that common for employers in the US to drug test their employees? I don't know of any employer here that does it.
Corporate America runs the government. Now they set our health care tax rates.
Originally posted by whodeyYou'd be suprised, I think your wrong - if you run the fire service you don't want people on drugs - if you work in sales i did for years - you can't afford to have people not on drugs - if you have that policy you'll go bust in a week, companies don't care about drug use unless the job is sensitive to it, they just don't want them on the premises.
Absolutely. Is it the other reason that I don't see it becoming legal in the US. After all, if you were an employer and you had to choose between two equal candidates with one who liked getting stoned and the other not, who would you hire?
Corporate America runs the government. Now they set our health care tax rates.
And salaries are what buys drugs I've worked in so many companies where everyone takes them, where they have resident dealers and the companies did absolutely fine.
plus i boycott any company that drug tests - not a penny from me and most people of my generation take that attitude
just to elaborate on that - the firemen should probably not use drugs , so to homer simpson at the plant!
There is a christian bookshop near me, if it had a sign saying 'we only employ teetotal staff' i'm sure they would not suffer for it, might even get more customers... but...
Any fast food resteraunt would loose all there customers and staff in a day by publicising a no drugs policy. if hmv did it they would sell no cds, would be rather hypocritical wouldn't it? And in sales i tell you drugs happen and thats what keeps business turning.
Originally posted by whodeyIf I was an employer I wouldn't care what drugs my employees were using as long as they were doing their job.
Absolutely. Is it the other reason that I don't see it becoming legal in the US. After all, if you were an employer and you had to choose between two equal candidates with one who liked getting stoned and the other not, who would you hire?
Corporate America runs the government. Now they set our health care tax rates.
Originally posted by KazetNagorraThats exactly my thinking too
If I was an employer I wouldn't care what drugs my employees were using as long as they were doing their job.
If a company harrases staff with drug / drink problems, well i'd like to harrass them frankly.
not many do, i never hear of it...