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@athousandyoung said
Zionist Christians think that God will take them into Heaven when the world ends I think
Yes, the Rapture.

I'm indecisive about this at the moment.

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@athousandyoung said
Zionist Christians think that God will take them into Heaven when the world ends I think
Dead is dead. Where does heaven come into it? They cannot go to heaven by dying now? What about Zionist Jews? Do they think differently than Christians?

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@metal-brain said
Dead is dead. Where does heaven come into it? They cannot go to heaven by dying now? What about Zionist Jews? Do they think differently than Christians?
Christians believe in eternal life so they don’t mind being dead in theory.

Zionist Jews don’t believe in the End Times. They are an indigenous population that fights for their land out of ethnic nationalism like the Irish Republicans or Basque separatists.

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@athousandyoung said
Christians believe in eternal life so they don’t mind being dead in theory.

Zionist Jews don’t believe in the End Times. They are an indigenous population that fights for their land out of ethnic nationalism like the Irish Republicans or Basque separatists.
They don't believe Jesus was the son of god either. They maintain Jesus was a fraud. Most of them anyway.
It seems to me that Christians have more in common with Muslims than Jews.

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@metal-brain said
They don't believe Jesus was the son of god either. They maintain Jesus was a fraud. Most of them anyway.
It seems to me that Christians have more in common with Muslims than Jews.
How do you so readily grab the wrong end of the stick?

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@suzianne said
You're not wrong.
Well, I guess, that’s one way of putting it…

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@metal-brain said
They don't believe Jesus was the son of god either. They maintain Jesus was a fraud. Most of them anyway.
It seems to me that Christians have more in common with Muslims than Jews.
The new testament = God’s messenger about Jesus (the Son of) who is God.
Mohammed = is God’s messenger about the word of God (the Koran).

The Jews only have the old testament = no Jesus.
In Christianity Jesus = God.
In Islam Jesus = prophet.

All three are Abrahamic religions. So, the same God.

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@shavixmir said
The new testament = God’s messenger about Jesus (the Son of) who is God.
Mohammed = is God’s messenger about the word of God (the Koran).

The Jews only have the old testament = no Jesus.
In Christianity Jesus = God.
In Islam Jesus = prophet.

All three are Abrahamic religions. So, the same God.
Jews do not accept Jesus is the son of god. With Christians everything seems to be about Jesus and how they almost equate him to god himself.

Jews are still waiting for the first coming. Right?

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Like you posting that isn't pointless?
I don't know why Christians support Zionism when Jews do not even believe in Jesus Christ. Truly bizarre.

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@metal-brain said
They don't believe Jesus was the son of god either. They maintain Jesus was a fraud. Most of them anyway.
It seems to me that Christians have more in common with Muslims than Jews.
“ It seems to me that Christians have more in common with Muslims than Jews.”

Ahh now we get to the whole premise of this stupid thread huh MB

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@kevcvs57
At least Muslims do not deny Christ. Jews are Jesus denying weirdos to Christians and Muslims. Or doesn't Jesus matter to Christians anymore?

Try telling a group of Christians Jesus was a fraud who was not the son of god. See how well it goes over. That is what the Jews believe. Right?

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@metal-brain said
@kevcvs57
At least Muslims do not deny Christ. Jews are Jesus denying weirdos to Christians and Muslims. Or doesn't Jesus matter to Christians anymore?

Try telling a group of Christians Jesus was a fraud who was not the son of god. See how well it goes over. That is what the Jews believe. Right?
“ Try telling a group of Christians Jesus was a fraud who was not the son of god. See how well it goes over. That is what the Jews believe. Right?”

I do that all the time but they just won’t listen 🤷🏻‍♂️
Who gives a toss which fairy tale one group or another chooses to patronise, they are all people of the book, so lost to reality IMO
Are you a Christian or a Muslim MB and if so which kind?
Are you a rapey child killing or non rapey non child killing muslim, a homophobic or non homophobic Christian?
So many schisms so little time to give a toss

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@kevcvs57 said
“ Try telling a group of Christians Jesus was a fraud who was not the son of god. See how well it goes over. That is what the Jews believe. Right?”

I do that all the time but they just won’t listen 🤷🏻‍♂️
Who gives a toss which fairy tale one group or another chooses to patronise, they are all people of the book, so lost to reality IMO
Are you a Christian or a Muslim MB ...[text shortened]... ng muslim, a homophobic or non homophobic Christian?
So many schisms so little time to give a toss
I am an Atheist.

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@metal-brain said
I am an Atheist.
Then why do you care about all this internal theistic jibberish
Muslims also deny that Jesus was the son of god so how are they different to the Jews from a Christian perspective?
We have more in common with the Jews and the Muslims on that point and I’m an agnostic