21 Mar 09
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7954121.stm
"A ruling by Brazil's supreme court has boosted the efforts of the country's disadvantaged indigenous groups to keep control of their lands.
By 10 votes to one, judges ruled to maintain an Indian reservation in the northern border state of Roraima as a single, continuous territory."
"Our correspondent notes that the case has raised fears in military circles that it would create an effectively autonomous Indian reservation running along a lengthy section of Brazil's border."
Ok, so why is the government doing this?
It took a long time to establish settlements in the forests, and now they're just giving it all away!
Soon we'll have Indians wanting independence from the Federal government, this should be avoided.
These indians should see themselves as Brazilians first, and it is obvious that the lands in the reservations are going to waste.
I think this rule by the supreme court is a big mistake.
21 Mar 09
Originally posted by generalissimoConfused ... Indian from India? Or Native American?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7954121.stm
"A ruling by Brazil's supreme court has boosted the efforts of the country's disadvantaged indigenous groups to keep control of their lands.
By 10 votes to one, judges ruled to maintain an Indian reservation in the northern border state of Roraima as a single, continuous territory."
"Our c ...[text shortened]... vations are going to waste.
I think this rule by the supreme court is a big mistake.
22 Mar 09
Originally posted by generalissimothe indian problem? u mean the white man invaders are the probelm my little nazi friend
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7954121.stm
"A ruling by Brazil's supreme court has boosted the efforts of the country's disadvantaged indigenous groups to keep control of their lands.
By 10 votes to one, judges ruled to maintain an Indian reservation in the northern border state of Roraima as a single, continuous territory."
"Our c ...[text shortened]... vations are going to waste.
I think this rule by the supreme court is a big mistake.
now go away
22 Mar 09
Originally posted by spurs73White men invaders? The farmers who were living in those areas came in all colors, your idea that this is something based on race is totally false.
the indian problem? u mean the white man invaders are the probelm my little nazi friend
now go away
"little nazi friend?" Why don't you grow up before posting here?
22 Mar 09
Originally posted by generalissimolook Sir, i have seen your posts here and u r nothing but a right wing Redneck of the worst kind.
White men invaders? The farmers who were living in those areas came in all colors, your idea that this is something based on race is totally false.
"little nazi friend?" Why don't you grow up before posting here?
Pleople like u with your hate filled words and actions agsinst other people are the cause of the problems in the world we all live in.
22 Mar 09
Originally posted by spurs73this is nonsense.
look Sir, i have seen your posts here and u r nothing but a right wing Redneck of the worst kind.
Pleople like u with your hate filled words and actions agsinst other people are the cause of the problems in the world we all live in.
my posts are not hateful, you must be confusing me for no1maraunder.
You're obviously ignorant about the subject discussed here, or my previous posts.
22 Mar 09
Originally posted by generalissimoWho lived there since who knows when and got gunned from their lands?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7954121.stm
"A ruling by Brazil's supreme court has boosted the efforts of the country's disadvantaged indigenous groups to keep control of their lands.
By 10 votes to one, judges ruled to maintain an Indian reservation in the northern border state of Roraima as a single, continuous territory."
"Our c ...[text shortened]... vations are going to waste.
I think this rule by the supreme court is a big mistake.
I suggest you read Florinda Donner's - Shabono first and if you then still come up with the same conclusions, you are beyond repair.
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24 Mar 09
Originally posted by generalissimothe guy is only 12 and is mentally retarded so go easy on him, it's not his fault.
White men invaders? The farmers who were living in those areas came in all colors, your idea that this is something based on race is totally false.
"little nazi friend?" Why don't you grow up before posting here?
personally i think the land should go to whoever will look after it best. brazil has a bad reputation for illegal logging, mining and pretty much everything that gos to make a profit.
24 Mar 09
Originally posted by SakeIm not saying we should extreminate the indians, what Im saying is that it is dangerous to encourage a sort of independence from the rest of Brazil.
Who lived there since who knows when and got gunned from their lands?
I suggest you read Florinda Donner's - Shabono first and if you then still come up with the same conclusions, you are beyond repair.
24 Mar 09
Originally posted by trev33personally i think the land should go to whoever will look after it best. brazil has a bad reputation for illegal logging, mining and pretty much everything that gos to make a profit.
the guy is only 12 and is mentally retarded so go easy on him, it's not his fault.
personally i think the land should go to whoever will look after it best. brazil has a bad reputation for illegal logging, mining and pretty much everything that gos to make a profit.
I agree with your first statement.
That's exactly why I think you shouldn't just give all the land for a reservation, personally I believe in integration and that the system of reservations is both inefficient and would also create a feeling of separatism, but besides that, I think it would be harder to make sure illegal loggings and other illegal activities are stopped if you forbid non-indians to have access to those areas.
25 Mar 09
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Originally posted by generalissimoMmm. So let me see. You believe in freedom and democracy, presumably? But YOU want to decide where the inigenous people live; you want to integrate them regardless of what they may or may not want; inefficiency is not permissable in your version of freedom and democracy; you contend that ownership should be linked to capacity to derive maximum economic benefit from property and not to more conventional concepts of property rights; all Brazillians must be on the same page - the only page permitted - when it comes to patriotic/separatist sentiments; and to top it all, in your final 27 words here, you appear to be blaming indiginous forest tribes for the industrial scale illegal logging; so, non-Indians must have access to Indian lands - not only for 'freedom's' sake - but also so that the forests are safe.
That's exactly why I think you shouldn't just give all the land for a reservation, personally I believe in integration and that the system of reservations is both inefficient and would also create a feeling of separatism, but besides that, I think it would be harder to make sure illegal loggings and other illegal activities are stopped if you forbid non-indians to have access to those areas.
These things are what your own words seem to be saying.
Care to clarify?