The judgement of history on the covid response is here

@no1marauder said
The Biden administration doesn't run the TGA, which is Australian.

Covid was world wide.

FDA lost a lawsuit over this…

https://www.heritage.org/press/fda-expert-fda-was-wrong-about-ivermectin-other-covid-treatments

@Mott-The-Hoople said
Covid was world wide.

FDA lost a lawsuit over this…

https://www.heritage.org/press/fda-expert-fda-was-wrong-about-ivermectin-other-covid-treatments

Neither the FDA nor any US government agency ever banned the drug.

You were wrong to claim differently.

The fact that it's own developer, which could have made a fortune if it really was an effective treatment for COVID told the public there was no evidence it was, tells you all.you need to know.

@no1marauder said
Neither the FDA nor any US government agency ever banned the drug.

You were wrong to claim differently.

The fact that it's own developer, which could have made a fortune if it really was an effective treatment for COVID told the public there was no evidence it was, tells you all.you need to know.

Facts won't deter a known troll from spewing BS.

@no1marauder said
Neither the FDA nor any US government agency ever banned the drug.

You were wrong to claim differently.

The fact that it's own developer, which could have made a fortune if it really was an effective treatment for COVID told the public there was no evidence it was, tells you all.you need to know.

has the fda approved Ivermectin for covid use?

Ivermectin=36.00

covid shot 740.00

@no1marauder said
I wasted enough time with COVID deniers and minimizers while the pandemic was raging. You're perfectly aware what the recommendations were and why they were implemented. Further argument is useless though the right wing victory lap you are engaging in is highly likely to cripple efforts to effectively respond to the next pandemic.

The weight of evidence suggests the measures you mention saved some lives at nominal cost.

If you've wasted enough time already, you're welcome to not respond, but I think that these interventions affirmatively hurt people's health by discouraging exercise, causing people to put on weight (the "covid 15" ), increasing depression by decreasing social interaction, hurt over-all economy productivity, and hurt children's learning and development, all for minimal benefit.

And please, I don't need anyone gaslighting me about how closing schools didn't hurt children. I had a bunch of school aged children at that time. And, while I was lucky in that I live in a leafy suburb with a backyard and plenty of neighbors that my kids could play with, and I also happened to have had an empty office (empty because of the pandemic) that I could turn into a makeshift day care center AND the advantage that my kids' schools opened in the Fall of 2020, despite those advantages, my kids were still undoubtedly hurt, both socially and academically, by being home from March to June.

I can hardly imagine how much urban kids living in small apartments in high rises were hurt by being home for even longer periods of time than that. And the insanity of closing the urban parks so kids couldn't play outdoors, and were forced to stay home where covid spread even more easily through plumbing... to this day it makes me angry to think about it.

@Mott-The-Hoople said

why would biden ban Ivermectin?

Biden didn’t ban ivermectin. He said you shouldn’t use it to treat COVID. 😆

In the US, in general, any licensed physician can prescribe any drug for any condition. But if they do so without any evidence of safety AND efficacy, they can be sued for malpractice.

Ivermectin is safe and effective at treating worm parasites in humans. Prescribing it to treat COVID (or arthritis or cancer or OCD) would most likely constitute malpractice. A physician could lose their license for doing such things.

But if you as a patient want to run down to Walgreens and buy cough syrup to treat your ED or omeprazole to treat your akathisia - you do you. It’s a free country. 😆

@sh76 said
If you've wasted enough time already, you're welcome to not respond, but I think that these interventions affirmatively hurt people's health by discouraging exercise, causing people to put on weight (the "covid 15" ), increasing depression by decreasing social interaction, hurt over-all economy productivity, and hurt children's learning and development, all for minimal benefit. ...[text shortened]... e covid spread even more easily through plumbing... to this day it makes me angry to think about it.

These are legitimate concerns. They require a cost-effectiveness analysis to answer. I’ve done such analyses, but I don’t have access to the kind of data needed to do this one. 😆

Someone will eventually do it.

I will say this: ALL such analyses are retrospective. At the moment of the pandemic, there was no evidence one way or the other on which to base a decision.

@sh76 said
If you've wasted enough time already, you're welcome to not respond, but I think that these interventions affirmatively hurt people's health by discouraging exercise, causing people to put on weight (the "covid 15" ), increasing depression by decreasing social interaction, hurt over-all economy productivity, and hurt children's learning and development, all for minimal benefit. ...[text shortened]... e covid spread even more easily through plumbing... to this day it makes me angry to think about it.

Boo Hoo for losing your government paid babysitter for a few months.

@Mott-The-Hoople said
Covid was world wide.

FDA lost a lawsuit over this…

https://www.heritage.org/press/fda-expert-fda-was-wrong-about-ivermectin-other-covid-treatments

Ivermectin does squat diddley for corona.

Jesus H Christ almighty. Stop this denier lunacy man.

How many health services, in the world, were using it to combat covid.
There you go. Your answer. Live with it.

@Mott-The-Hoople said
Covid was world wide.

FDA lost a lawsuit over this…

https://www.heritage.org/press/fda-expert-fda-was-wrong-about-ivermectin-other-covid-treatments

FDA was not wrong. 😆

Moreover, punchy tweets seem to be the best way to communicate with SOME people! 😆

The FDA will delete and archive social media posts encouraging Americans not to use ivermectin to treat Covid-19 to settle litigation brought by three doctors who had promoted the drug.

The agency said the settlement — detailed in a Thursday court filing in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Texas — does not mean it has changed its position that no data shows ivermectin to be an effective Covid treatment.

“The agency has chosen to resolve this lawsuit rather than continuing to litigate over statements that are between two and nearly four years old,” the FDA said in an emailed statement. “The agency has not authorized or approved ivermectin for use in preventing or treating COVID-19.”

The FDA did not admit to wrongdoing under the terms of the settlement.

https://subscriber.politicopro.com/article/2024/03/fda-agrees-to-delete-you-are-not-a-horse-ivermectin-tweet-00148620

@Mott-The-Hoople said
Covid was world wide.

FDA lost a lawsuit over this…

https://www.heritage.org/press/fda-expert-fda-was-wrong-about-ivermectin-other-covid-treatments

Is this the very same Heritage Foundation as behind Project 2025?

Go spread your disinformation somewhere else please.

@Mott-The-Hoople said
I will tell you what is BS.

biden admin changing the definition of vaccine so they could allow big pharma to get rich from something that isnt a vaccine.

Never was and still isnt a vaccine to stop covid19.

Sure you can find a liberal doctor that tells you what they want you to hear. Fauci lied and you bought every word of it.

All this BS just to deny you bought everything Trump ever said hook, line and sinker.