The Matrix

Brother Edwin

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14 Oct 04 22:05

Brother Edwin

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The moral highground

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14 Oct 04 22:05

Who wants to duscuss the philosophy of this triliogy.

howardgee

Cosmos

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15 Oct 04 00:29

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It has no coherent philosophy.

It contradicts itself at every twist and turn. The whole series is simply * dressed up with stunning special effects.

Ravello

The Rude©

who knows?

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15 Oct 04 00:47

go watch ''Pretty woman''

Nemesio

Ursulakantor

Pittsburgh, PA

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15 Oct 04 04:42

Originally posted by howardgee
It has no coherent philosophy. It contradicts itself at every twist and turn.

Would you care to give an example or two rather than making a dismissive, axiomatic statement such as this?

Nemesio

howardgee

Cosmos

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15 Oct 04 05:41

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Originally posted by nemesio
Would you care to give an example or two rather than making a dismissive, axiomatic statement such as this?

Nemesio

What's the point? It's all *.

It would be easier to give some coherent philosophy in the film:

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Did you get that?

Brother Edwin

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The moral highground

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15 Oct 04 13:11

Originally posted by howardgee
What's the point? It's all bollocks.

It would be easier to give some coherent philosophy in the film:

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Did you get that?

Is this your well-reasond opinuion, or the moronic bablings of a preteen in total cognative surrender?

lausey

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15 Oct 04 13:29

Originally posted by howardgee
What's the point? It's all bollocks.

It would be easier to give some coherent philosophy in the film:

...

Did you get that?

Although you could be very much correct. It would be better if you do give some examples. I personally believe that the concept of the film is nothing new. Authors like Philip K Dick wrote stories which talked about alternative realities like this back in the 60s.

Lau

seanpbutler

ruislipwoods

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15 Oct 04 17:10

First film Great.

Ohh that made us a lot of money lets do it again and again.
That way we make even more money.

So the philosphy is Make money by calling it a triliogy.

David Tebb

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15 Oct 04 18:24

Originally posted by seanpbutler
First film Great.

Ohh that made us a lot of money lets do it again and again.
That way we make even more money.

So the philosphy is Make money by calling it a triliogy.

I agree with what you're saying. But the studios only make these sequels because the movie-going public asks for them. I was (still am) a fan of the original Matrix film and I loved it so much, that I practically demanded they made a sequel! Of course when the sequels arrived, they weren't as good. But why were we surprised?

-Dave

darvlay

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15 Oct 04 18:27

Originally posted by David Tebb
I agree with what you're saying. But the studios only make these sequels because the movie-going public asks for them. I was (still am) a fan of the original Matrix film and I loved it so much, that I practically demanded they made a sequel! Of course when the sequels arrived, they weren't as good. But why were we surprised?

-Dave

Another example of this: Star Wars Episodes 1 and 2. Total trash.

jimmyb270

Top Gun

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15 Oct 04 23:17

Originally posted by darvlay
Another example of this: Star Wars Episodes 1 and 2. Total trash.

But they look so pretty! 😛

steerpike

Red Republican

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16 Oct 04 06:35

Originally posted by Brother Edwin
Who wants to duscuss the philosophy of this triliogy.

I did not know pretentiousness was now classed as a philosophy.

Brother Edwin

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16 Oct 04 08:59

Originally posted by steerpike
I did not know pretentiousness was now classed as a philosophy.

I know theres loadsa philosophy in it but I just cant really explain it. Somethng abot the robots and the people...

Poison Godmachine

Disavowed

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16 Oct 04 09:34

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Has anyone read this? I will say that I liked all three movies and I did get some of the references (mostly due to my ludicrous course of study in college), but this article is quite in-depth and expounds on points that I was only vaguely familiar with. It's a very interesting read, but set aside some time as it's quite long.

http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/rl_cmp/new_phil_wakeup.html

ivanhoe

Felicific Forest

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16 Oct 04 15:54

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Originally posted by Poison Godmachine
Has anyone read this? I will say that I liked all three movies and I did get some of the references (mostly due to my ludicrous course of study in college), but this article is quite in-depth and expounds on points that I was only ...[text shortened]...
http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/rl_cmp/new_phil_wakeup.html

I've read part of the article and I didn't see the movie. I don't want to see such a load of non-sense and pseudo-religious or pseudo-philosophical blah blah.
It seems to me this is a way of satisfying people's hunger for "explanations" and "spirituality" by offering them spiritual junk food. It tastes sóóóó good and after you've finished you want more .... and more ... and more

.............. indeed, "wake up" and stop waisting your money and energy on this spiritual junk food.