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http://www.businessinsider.com/12-charts-that-show-the-real-state-of-unemployment-2010-6#initial-weekly-claims-have-come-down-but-have-recently-flatlined-1
Originally posted by MelanerpesThat means it's time for everyone to accept that wages will continue to be stagnant or falling in real terms. That means its time for everyone to accept that the economy will continue to be sluggish.
chart #11 is the one that indicated something we probably all didn't already know.
the average weekly overtime hours has risen very sharply over the past year or so (following a sharp drop during 2008-09).
it would make sense that as an economy moves out of a deep recession, employers would be very wary about committing to hiring additional workers ...[text shortened]... e for everyone to accept that we're becoming increasingly a service and information economy.)
Originally posted by no1marauderI just don't see manufacturing jobs doing anything but continuing to drop -- and those jobs that remain are likely to increasingly be non-union, de-skilled low wage stuff. (Seems like the only places where unions still have a lot of clout is in the public sector). It's not a matter of whether or not you or the American people like this scenario, we're still going to have to deal with it.
That means it's time for everyone to accept that wages will continue to be stagnant or falling in real terms. That means its time for everyone to accept that the economy will continue to be sluggish.
I don't accept that and neither should the American people.
Originally posted by MelanerpesThe US has shed 1/3 of its manufacturing jobs in the last 12 years. This was not some inevitable force of nature, but a calculated decision by policy makers. We should "deal with it" by changing our present policies which have created this disastrous trend; if this means measures which the KNs of the world will cluck at as "protectionist", so be it.
I just don't see manufacturing jobs doing anything but continuing to drop -- and those jobs that remain are likely to be increasingly be non-union, de-skilled low wage stuff. (Seems like the only places where unions still have a lot of clout is in the public sector). It's not a matter of whether or not you or the American people like this scenario, we're ...[text shortened]... until most people finally become willing to address the real problem.
Or maybe not.
Originally posted by no1marauderaccording to chart #9, the number of manufacturing jobs remained more or less steady at around 18mill since around 1965 until 2000 before the recent drop - so it seems that an absolute "best-case scenario" would be to get that number back up to near 18mill again -- but with the population now around 310mill vs 190mill in 1965, manufacturing jobs would still be an ever-declining part of the American economy.
The US has shed 1/3 of its manufacturing jobs in the last 12 years. This was not some inevitable force of nature, but a calculated decision by policy makers. We should "deal with it" by changing our present policies which have created this disastrous trend; if this means measures which the KNs of the world will cluck at as "protectionist", so be it.
Originally posted by PinkFloydhttp://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/11/03/eveningnews/main2151799.shtml
It doesn't take a genius to prove that the recession is far from over. I can look at my local newspaper, the parking lot at the Unemployment Office and Job Service buildings, and the people sitting across from the county court house on the Federal Building steps day after day. Thare ain't no jobs here. And the argument to "gop to where the jobs are" is BS.
Originally posted by MelanerpesIs it healthy to have a major recession every 10 years?
according to chart #9, the number of manufacturing jobs remained more or less steady at around 18mill since around 1965 until 2000 before the recent drop - so it seems that an absolute "best-case scenario" would be to get that number back up to near 18mill again -- but with the population now around 310mill vs 190mill in 1965, manufacturing jobs would sti ...[text shortened]... end since 1965, manufacturing is going to continue to strongly decline as a % of the jobs.
Originally posted by no1marauderWell, welcome to Obamaville.
That means it's time for everyone to accept that wages will continue to be stagnant or falling in real terms. That means its time for everyone to accept that the economy will continue to be sluggish.
I don't accept that and neither should the American people.
Originally posted by zeeblebot...a welder...making 6 figures?...you know that has to be part of the problem. not that welding isn't an important and difficult skill....but 6 figures?
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/11/03/eveningnews/main2151799.shtml
GILLETTE, Wyoming, Nov. 3, 2006
Wyoming Jobs Beckon, But Housing Is Scarce
* Families Relocate To Get A Toehold In Land Of Opportunity
(CBS) When the Springers say they're closer than most American families, they're not exaggerating.
They moved from their home to a tra ...[text shortened]... 's no sense in staying afloat if you can be moving forward," Zeb says.
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