Originally posted by knightwestWait a bloody minute...
Hamas is an abomination, murdering the very people who voted it into power.
It's just another disgusting chapter in the whole big mess.
Did Isreali agents infiltrate Hamas and incite them to kill their own people 😉
Wasn't Hamas DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED?
Doesn't that mean that they shouldn't need to fight to gain control over the institutions they should be running?
And doesn't that mean that something strange, slightly fishy and probably financed by the US is happening there?
Yeah... sure does.
Originally posted by SeitseIt's called divide and rule.
Sometimes conspiracy theories are the easiest, laziest way out to
explain those normal things the world has.
homo homini lupus... and there are a loooot of lupus in that region.
Insiders.
No need for the CIA to channel no funds.
And are you aware of the amount of money the US pumps into Israel each year?
It's probably just coincidence though.
Originally posted by shavixmirInto Israel... which is different than putting money into the factions
It's called divide and rule.
And are you aware of the amount of money the US pumps into Israel each year?
It's probably just coincidence though.
within Palestinian population to kill each other.
They do not need any support from anybody to do what they are doing
right now in detriment of their own people.
Originally posted by shavixmirIt MUST be the CIA. Yeah. Cuz only they could con Paleos into killing their fellow Paleos.
Wait a bloody minute...
Wasn't Hamas DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED?
Doesn't that mean that they shouldn't need to fight to gain control over the institutions they should be running?
And doesn't that mean that something strange, slightly fishy and probably financed by the US is happening there?
Yeah... sure does.
The part I don't understand is why doesn't the PLO just let the hammies have Gaza. I don't see how controlling that smugglers den is of any advantage to them.
Originally posted by shavixmirOnly you, bud. Only you.
Wait a bloody minute...
Wasn't Hamas DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED?
Doesn't that mean that they shouldn't need to fight to gain control over the institutions they should be running?
And doesn't that mean that something strange, slightly fishy and probably financed by the US is happening there?
Yeah... sure does.
I can't think of anyone else here that would look at the Paleos circular firing squad and think, "It's the CIA!"
Originally posted by MerkI'm sure, if you look closely enough, you'll see it isn't the CIA, but Mossad.
It MUST be the CIA. Yeah. Cuz only they could con Paleos into killing their fellow Paleos.
The part I don't understand is why doesn't the PLO just let the hammies have Gaza. I don't see how controlling that smugglers den is of any advantage to them.
Obviously, when you look that close you'll see who's payin' the bill too.
There's an old Dutch saying: "When two dogs fight over a bone, the third will steal it."
All you have to do is make sure the two dogs are fighting. And hell, if it worked for the ruling classes in Northern Ireland, South Africa and Sri Lanka...hell... it sure as hell is gonna work for the ruling classes in Israel and the States.
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Oh yeah, the Mossad.
The prefered scapegoat of those who have some attitude problems towards Israel.
Hey, listen, if we are going to start trying to convert 'opinions', biases
and internal ghosts into 'facts', we will get nowhere.
Those factions have demonstrated that they need no Mossad
and no CIA to kill each other and keep competing to see who
has the larger jihadist penis. Fact.
Edit. That does not mean that the Mossad isn't the coolest intelligence
group in the world. Together with the S.W. Center, they have
'erased' some enemies of the cause. Heaven bless them 😵
Originally posted by shavixmirAre you saying that the Joos are likely financing the Hammies?
I'm sure, if you look closely enough, you'll see it isn't the CIA, but Mossad.
Obviously, when you look that close you'll see who's payin' the bill too.
There's an old Dutch saying: "When two dogs fight over a bone, the third will steal it."
All you have to do is make sure the two dogs are fighting. And hell, if it worked for the ruling classe ...[text shortened]... .hell... it sure as hell is gonna work for the ruling classes in Israel and the States.
Originally posted by MerkIt wouldn't surprise me, but no.
Are you saying that the Joos are likely financing the Hammies?
What you do is look at a situation and assert pressure. Everytime you assert pressure, you see that something changes.
Excerting the right amount of pressure on the the right spots, will create internal strife.
Add a good wallop of poverty and fear into the equation, voila. Simple.
Do I think the situation of the Palestinians is planned? Yes. Absolutely. No doubt, what-so-ever.
Originally posted by shavixmirThey haven't put any pressure on Gaza since they pulled out in '05.
It wouldn't surprise me, but no.
What you do is look at a situation and assert pressure. Everytime you assert pressure, you see that something changes.
Excerting the right amount of pressure on the the right spots, will create internal strife.
Add a good wallop of poverty and fear into the equation, voila. Simple.
Do I think the situation of the Palestinians is planned? Yes. Absolutely. No doubt, what-so-ever.
Are you willing to at least consider the possibility that the events unfolding are, partly, a result of the lack of Israeli pressure in the area? As in could this be a case of these people are now finally getting a chance to deal with things themselves and this is a result of a clash of ideas.
Originally posted by MerkThey've not put any pressure on the area?
They haven't put any pressure on Gaza since they pulled out in '05.
Are you willing to at least consider the possibility that the events unfolding are, partly, a result of the lack of Israeli pressure in the area? As in could this be a case of these people are now finally getting a chance to deal with things themselves and this is a result of a clash of ideas.
Constant incursions, nightly blasts through the sound-barrier... to name just a few...