Some posters may not follow this but the US and Turkey are at odds over
Turkey's purchase of Russia's S-400 missile system. In fact, the US has sanctioned Turkey
over the move and will not retract. The reason why the USA does not want Turkey to have
the vaunted S-400 SAM missiles is because they are not "NATO Compliant" - or so they say.
But today's article tends to leave the US argument looking kinda' like a big fat lie. Enjoy.
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Austin says discussed with India its planned purchase of Russian air defence systems
NEW DELHI (Reuters) - Visiting United States Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said he and his Indian counterpart had discussed India’s planned purchase of Russia’s S400 air defence system, adding that Washington had asked all its partners to stay away from Russian equipment to avoid U.S. sanctions.
There has been no delivery of S400 systems to India and so the possibility of sanctions was not discussed, Austin told reporters in New Delhi on Saturday. ------------------------------------------- the Reuters
So there ya go! India does not belong, of course to NATO.
Geee, ya think the S-400 makes the F-35 shake in fear? Uh huh.
I highly doubt "fear" is the reason for the largest military in human history. Whenever war and the U.S. are involved, it's usually over money. The vast majority of U.S. wars in recent decades involve oil-rich nations.
Dig deep enough you'll probably find some sort of financial motivation behind this act.
Can Duchess cite where I said "in terms of people"?
The combined scale of the U.S. ground, Naval and Air Forces, combined with the largest nuclear stockpile in the world, makes the U.S. objectively the largest military. The number of actual people in a military is a rather week indicator of strength given how one bomb can eliminate thousands soldiers.
"In terms of people"---Duchess
"We also have fewer horses and bayonets"---Obama.
EDIT: I mistakenly said "navy" when I meant to say "military.
@duchess64said Note how Vivify has disingenuously altered his original claim.
"...makes the U.S. objectively the largest NAVY."
--Vivify (latest claim)
That was obviously an error. I meant to say military. The U.S. objectively has the largest military.
The combined ground, naval and air force of the U.S., combined with the world's largest nuclear stockpile, makes the U.S. the largest *military* in the world.
In the age of modern warfare, the individual number of soldiers in a military is far from the most significant factor.
Yes. And what’s that got to do with Russian S-400’s.
And the largest navy says nothing.
A US carrier battle group is going to rip anything the Chinese or anyone else throws at them a new arse hole (7th fleet’s CSG 5, for example).
I’m no fan of the US military machine. But their carrier strike groups are extremely impressive.
Obviously the Panther and Tiger were superior to the T-34... so quality doesn’t always trump quantity. That has to be said as well.
My claim hasn't changed. The U.S. has the largest military in human history.
Note that Vivify's original claim was about SIZE, not about 'effectiveness' (or whatever).
When has Russia's naval force been larger than the USA's? When has Russia's air force been larger than America's? When has Russia's nuclear stockpile been larger than in the U.S.? I said the *combined* U.S. military is the largest in history. This is a fact.
You being stuck on the physical size misses the point: the U.S. has the most powerful military in history. So claiming the U.S. is motivated by "fear" like in the OP seems to be incorrect.
The US Afraid of Russia's S-400 SAM ??
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