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@earl-of-trumps said
@mchill - I think you would agree that most soldiers are willing to die fighting for their country.

Also, on a peroneal level, one may want to risk his life and go to work to get food money for his family.

It's all about "risk management".
What right wingers are proposing is that workers risk themselves, their families and their loved ones health and lives for no rational reason. A short term slowdown in order to get a deadly epidemic under control isn't the armaggeddon that the screechers here are pretending it to be and they know it.


@eladar said
You missed everything I wrote.
No, I didn't.

I just regarded it as the hysterical BS it is.


@no1marauder said
No, I didn't.

I just regarded it as the hysterical BS it is.
So you have as must respect for my views as I have for yours.

Why bother?


@eladar said
So you have as must respect for my views as I have for yours.

Why bother?
Are you against speed limits? Don't they impinge our precious "freedom" to do whatever we please?

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@deepthought said
So this is the latest manifestation of Ayn Rand's thing about altruism being incompatible with the requirements of human life?
You give me too much intellectual credit. I don't read philosophy. The natural world is a far better teacher about the state of humanity than anything that can be read in a book written by humans. The closest thing to what I truly believe about the human race...ants, but not nearly as evolved, nor anywhere near as important to the ecology of planet Earth. What do you believe?

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@no1marauder said
Are you against speed limits? Don't they impinge our precious "freedom" to do whatever we please?
No, I am against your generalization of speed limits. If we have speed limits then obviously the government has the right to do anything.


@eladar said
You missed everything I wrote.
If only.


@ghost-of-a-duke said
If only.
What do you know, another Chinese wannabe.


@eladar said
What do you know, another Chinese wannabe.
You'll need to explain that one.


@eladar said
He is right.

You must be willing to die to protect freedom.
You’re not though, are you?

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@mchill said
- living.

This from Texas Republican Lt. Governor Dan Patrick, Patrick who suggested in an interview with Fox News’ Tucker Carlson that he and other senior citizens might be willing to die in order to save the U.S. economy.

Can someone please explain to me how this fits in with the Republicans' "pro life" platform?

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/live-blog/2020-04-21-coronavirus-news-n1188466/ncrd1189061#liveBlogHeader
I don't know how this is "pro-life", but it is certainly "pro-big-business".

Same old, same old. Business as usual.

Only now they are willing to sacrifice Americans to their idol of Corporate Power.

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@eladar said
He is right.

You must be willing to die to protect freedom.
What you mean is your version of freedom.

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@joe-shmo said
I don't know if you know this, but old people have lived most of their life - however short and fleeting that time period is. In relatively no time at all they will be gone from the machine anyhow. I suspect they would much rather cut it short than have their progeny suffer in destitution and poverty for what could be a relatively long time. Its called altruism. Its a na ...[text shortened]... g a baby for your own good is exactly the opposite. A baby cant be aborted for the babies own good.
But you're perfectly fine for old people to be "aborted" for your own good.

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@eladar said
People should be allowed to do what they wish. Educate them then let them decide.
Except your kind cannot be educated.

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@whodey said
I started a thread a while back about how for every 1% of unemployment there are so many hundreds of thousands of death from such things as suicide, heart disease, alcoholism, etc. So a 10% increase in unemployment, which is probably a conservative estimate now, could cause close to half a million dead in a year.

I'm sorry, how many have died from Covid so far?
And that thread, along with the alt-right thinking that went into it, is pure BS.

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