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@Rajk999 saidNo one believes such a preposterous number. There were an estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants in country before Biden's term; the highest estimate I have heard the number ever reached was 14 million.
As I pointed out to you earlier, Biden allowed over 11,000,000 into the country. Difference = 7,000,000.
And most were not "allowed in" but there was a predictable surge after COVID.
@YEAH-BOY saidWhat do you think Raj.: Auto delete? . I've been dumped, it's not so bad. We always have Shouse,, though he is a biiiiiiit redundant.
trump bootlicker.
Naaaa, let's keep him around , got an ole hound dog that don't bother me much. Smells up the car though. Kinda like YB smelling up the Forum. I'm OK w him if you are. Something to do when I am sitting in the clevland train station.
@AverageJoe1 saidI hardly care that you refuse to believe the truth.
You are so full of crap. (SEE CHAT REPORT BELOW) Remember that I have been saying to everyone for a long time.... buy stocks, ...that all the talk of a 'Trump Recession' was based upon nothing but TDS, You little fellers did not look at the world around you. Maaaann, I was looking. Today was HUGE. I now suggest watch for the dips, don't buy today. My beauty was buy ...[text shortened]... rd. ””
Full of crap. And you know you are lying. WHY dump illegals when they can vote for you?
"Over 4.6 million people were removed from the U.S. between January 2021 and November 2024, according to government data,"
https://www.newsweek.com/immigrant-deportations-removals-trump-biden-obama-compared-chart-2026835
This estimate is a little lower:
"Total DHS repatriations through October amounted to 3.7 million, a figure that includes the 2.8 million removals directly from CBP, as well as removals by ICE. "
https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/breaking-down-the-immigration-figures/
At any rate, the "open borders" claim is a lie as you well know.
@AverageJoe1
Hey,follow Marauder, real ineresting stuff there. Let's try him with this one...
"""""But Democrats want legislation requiring agents to wear cameras, along with identification that includes their agency, ID number and last name."""
They want officers to show IDs. But they DO NOT WANT CITIZENS TO SHOW IDS TO CAST A VOTE FOR WHO WOULD LEAD 330MILLION PEOPLE. (350 if you include all the foreign illegal aliens)
This is going to fester. Let us ALL know when a dem gives us ONE reason, valid or not, that people should vote e with no photo ID. I don't think this plan will work anyway, because all of the photos look alike to me.
@no1marauder saidTHE BORDERS WERE NOT OPEN1!1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hardly care that you refuse to believe the truth.
"Over 4.6 million people were removed from the U.S. between January 2021 and November 2024, according to government data,"
https://www.newsweek.com/immigrant-deportations-removals-trump-biden-obama-compared-chart-2026835
This estimate is a little lower:
"Total DHS repatriations through October amounted to 3. ...[text shortened]... ng-down-the-immigration-figures/
At any rate, the "open borders" claim is a lie as you well know.
Raj, I am convinced that this one is a Bot. Russ may have cooked him up to awaken an otherwise boring bunch of posters. Ha,,I have been so 'awake' about all these people that I am asleep!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@AverageJoe1 saidIn his first term when he actually obeyed the law:
THE BORDERS WERE NOT OPEN1!1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Raj, I am convinced that this one is a Bot. Russ may have cooked him up to awaken an otherwise boring bunch of posters. Ha,,I have been so 'awake' about all these people that I am asleep!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Bier wrote in November that his work showed the Biden administration “has removed a higher percentage of arrested border crossers in its first two years than the Trump DHS did over its last two years. Moreover, migrants were more likely to be released after a border arrest under President Trump than under President Biden.”
While the raw numbers are much higher under Biden — 5 million encounters compared with 1.4 million under Trump in those time frames — the percentages for the two administrations were similar: 47% removed under Trump and 51% under Biden. Bier’s estimates are for illegal immigration between ports of entry. (As our bar graph above shows, both administrations had removal rates above 50% when Title 42 was being used to expel people.)"
https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/breaking-down-the-immigration-figures/
@no1marauder saidHere's an easy one.
In his first term when he actually obeyed the law:
"Bier wrote in November that his work showed the Biden administration “has removed a higher percentage of arrested border crossers in its first two years than the Trump DHS did over its last two years. [b]Moreover, migrants were more likely to be released after a border arrest under President Trump than under President ...[text shortened]... used to expel people.)"
https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/breaking-down-the-immigration-figures/
(sorry, not much of a link guy, don't have those at the coffee shop)
We have heard somewhere that people think that a person who votes for candidates who are vying for leadership positions on city and federal levels should NOT be required to have photo IDs (for obvious reasons.....like,polsters should not be required to donate their time to people who cannot say who they are). NOT have IDs.
But, my grandmother just showed a news article that the Dems in the Senate, RIGHT NOW, 2/6/26, are demanding that police/ICE/ Border Patrol, NGuard,, whomever, or pick and choose, makes no difference......demanding that THEY SHOW THEIR PHOTO ID IN THE ENDEAVOR PERFORMING THEIR DUTIES.
This is for the Linkmeister Marauder. What say you?
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@AverageJoe1 saidThey are Federal employees in contact with the public. Like real police all over the country, they should be easily identifiable so any misconduct by them should be reportable.
Here's an easy one.
(sorry, not much of a link guy, don't have those at the coffee shop)
We have heard somewhere that people think that a person who votes for candidates who are vying for leadership positions on city and federal levels should NOT be required to have photo IDs (for obvious reasons.....like,polsters should not be required to donate their time to people ...[text shortened]... D IN THE ENDEAVOR PERFORMING THEIR DUTIES.
This is for the Linkmeister Marauder. What say you?
ICE agents are already required to present ID if requested:
"Upon request, internal policy generally requires agents to present their badge and official photo identification card, which includes their name and badge number. Presenting these credentials verifies the agent’s law enforcement authority, particularly when questioning or detaining an individual."
https://legalclarity.org/do-ice-agents-have-to-identify-themselves/
Probably most people don't know that and also most agents ignore it, so external ID is now necessary.
But hey if Republicans want to die on that hill, great. Let them fight reform of an agency a large majority think is too aggressive and too willing to use excessive force. That's a great election year plan.
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@no1marauder said" the Biden administration’s nearly 4.4 million repatriations are already more than any single presidential term since the George W. Bush administration (5 million in its second term)."
Right wing fairy tales do not create "emergencies":
"The 1.1 million deportations since the beginning of fiscal year (FY) 2021 through February 2024 (the most recent data available) are on pace to match the 1.5 million deportations carried out during the four years President Donald Trump was in office. These deportations are in addition to the 3 million expulsions of m ...[text shortened]... (5 million in its second term)."
https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/biden-deportation-record
Why are you complaining about Trump then? you werent with biden
@AverageJoe1 saidIgnore the man. Be strong. Respond to people who have posted something of substance.
What do you think Raj.: Auto delete? . I've been dumped, it's not so bad. We always have Shouse,, though he is a biiiiiiit redundant.
Naaaa, let's keep him around , got an ole hound dog that don't bother me much. Smells up the car though. Kinda like YB smelling up the Forum. I'm OK w him if you are. Something to do when I am sitting in the clevland train station.
@AverageJoe1 saidHe is just being technically correct. The borders were not open in the sense that a door is open. The border was monitored but people were allowed to enter at a much faster rate than is presently the case.
THE BORDERS WERE NOT OPEN1!1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Raj, I am convinced that this one is a Bot. Russ may have cooked him up to awaken an otherwise boring bunch of posters. Ha,,I have been so 'awake' about all these people that I am asleep!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@no1marauder saidLooks like more than 11,000,000.
No one believes such a preposterous number. There were an estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants in country before Biden's term; the highest estimate I have heard the number ever reached was 14 million.
And most were not "allowed in" but there was a predictable surge after COVID.
Who to believe Google or you.... Let me think ...
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Based on data from U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) and analyses of the Biden administration's tenure (roughly early 2021 through early 2025), estimates for illegal immigration vary based on whether the focus is on "encounters" (which include multiple attempts by the same person) or total individuals released into the country.
- Total Encounters: CBP recorded over 10 million nationwide encounters, with roughly 8 million occurring at the Southwest border, from the beginning of the Biden administration through late 2024.
- "Gotaways": In addition to recorded encounters, there were an estimated 1.5 million to over 1.7 million "gotaways"—individuals detected by sensors or cameras but not apprehended—during this period.
- Releases into the U.S.: Various reports, including those from the House Committee on Homeland Security and testimony from critics, indicate that a significant portion of those encountered were released into the U.S. interior, with some estimates suggesting over 6 million in total, including those in parole
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@Rajk999 saidThanks. Saved me a lot of response, though he knows all this… He does it just to throw us off course.
He is just being technically correct. The borders were not open in the sense that a door is open. The border was monitored but people were allowed to enter at a much faster rate than is presently the case.
There is only one course. Trump! I just saw a news clip where one of the rebel browsers at a crowd, screamed that Bezos, who is the fourth richest man in the world does not do something with his money. The problem is, what they want him to do with his money is to support leftist ideals.!!!! Hell, if that happened, I may end up with some jog Bezos’ money. I would feel like one dirty son of a butch.
Curious, when Marauder attempts on these forums to pit Biden against Trump, does he really think that Biden is or was the better president??!?!? why can’t he not write a normal sentence or two to us without being smart ass. He seems to have a little more education than that..
@Rajk999 saidMostly because the Biden administration followed the law requiring that those crossing the border could apply for asylum, while the Trump administration is breaking it.
He is just being technically correct. The borders were not open in the sense that a door is open. The border was monitored but people were allowed to enter at a much faster rate than is presently the case.
Biden did expand TPS status to 1.2 million individuals from various countries as was authorized under a 1990 immigration law. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/03/29/how-temporary-protected-status-has-expanded-under-the-biden-administration/
@AverageJoe1 saidPretty sure Biden will be remembered as a fair President (who should not have sought a second term) and Trump will be rated as one of our worst.
Thanks. Saved me a lot of response, though he knows all this… He does it just to throw us off course.
There is only one course. Trump! I just saw a news clip where one of the rebel browsers at a crowd, screamed that Bezos, who is the fourth richest man in the world does not do something with his money. The problem is, what they want him to do with his money is ...[text shortened]... sentence or two to us without being smart ass. He seems to have a little more education than that..
Biden took us out of the depths of the COVID crisis, finally got us out of the Afghanistan disaster and left office with a strong economy (though Presidents generally get too much credit/blame for the economy).
Trump is a raving lunatic.