@AverageJoe1
I imagine you FOR SURE want to hide Trump's convictions, BESIDES the 34 FELONIES, a bunch of defamation rulings and such and the hush money deal, that had NOTHING to do directly with the 130K paid to Stormy, it had EVERYTHING to do with Trump trying in a proven CONSPIRACY to HIDE the payments from the government. THAT is why it was illegal. If he just paid off Stormy with a check there WOULD BE NO conviction now but Trump had to HIDE the payment and THAT is why he is in trouble for that now, some half BILLION fines and of course his pet judges on SCOTUS are about to rule on that fine, maybe cut it down to 40 bucks and an apology.
@AverageJoe1 saidI see. You need it spelled out. OK, so here's a side-by-side of what IS and what IS NOT insurrection or rebellion:
Where is the 'engaged in rebellion' part
Fishy, But Not Insurrection
DJT: "Brad? This is Donald Trump."
BR: "Hello, Mr President. This is unexpected."
DJT: "Brad, I have a bad feeling about the voting results you have down in Georgia. Very bad. I think they are wrong."
BR: "Uhhhh....well, that's not really something I can discuss, sir, since I don't actually report to you, so..."
DJT: "No, Brad, Brad. Listen to me, Brad. I have... listen to this... I have special sources. Very special. Important sources that are so special - you know, frankly? I can't even tell you anything about them. My sources. They are THAT special, you understand. I can't even tell you what they are. But these sources tell me things, Brad. Many, many things. And they tell me, you've got it wrong. Brad, you've gotta check. Votes are missing, Brad. They tell me votes are missing. You've got to find them, Brad. You've got to. It's your job. Look for the missing votes. Look in all the usual places."
BR: "OK, Mr President. Well... I'll... uh... I'll look into it? As Sec of State for Georgia, election integrity is my responsibility so, sir, I will definitely do my best.... Like I always do, sir."
Insurrection
[Long Phone Exchange with Co-conspirators Listening]
DJT:"...So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state."
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/03/politics/trump-brad-raffensperger-phone-call-transcript/index.html
Unlike some other countries, we elect our government. That's why trying to overthrow an election is EXACTLY the same thing as trying to overthrow the US government.
That's insurrection. Trump is disqualified from Federal office unless Congress removes such disability.
@sonhouse saidWe need to send someone over to check on Sonhouse.
@AverageJoe1
I imagine you FOR SURE want to hide Trump's convictions, BESIDES the 34 FELONIES, a bunch of defamation rulings and such and the hush money deal, that had NOTHING to do directly with the 130K paid to Stormy, it had EVERYTHING to do with Trump trying in a proven CONSPIRACY to HIDE the payments from the government. THAT is why it was illegal. If he just paid off ...[text shortened]... s pet judges on SCOTUS are about to rule on that fine, maybe cut it down to 40 bucks and an apology.
And what will be the situation when Trump closes the Art of the Deal??
@spruce112358 saidI thought that there is jail time for insurrection. You do not close your posts.
I see. You need it spelled out. OK, so here's a side-by-side of what IS and what IS NOT insurrection or rebellion:
Fishy, But Not Insurrection
DJT: "Brad? This is Donald Trump."
BR: "Hello, Mr President. This is unexpected."
DJT: "Brad, I have a bad feeling about the voting results you have down in Georgia. Very bad. I think they are wrong."
BR: "Uhhhh....w ...[text shortened]... t's insurrection. Trump is disqualified from Federal office unless Congress removes such disability.
@AverageJoe1 saidI have no idea why it has taken FOUR YEARS to get the man indicted and put away.
I thought that there is jail time for insurrection. You do not close your posts.
Put it down to a failure of the justice system, I guess.
@spruce112358 saidYou sound worked up like SHouse. So what do you think....will he do time!?!? If Kamala ushers him to Alcatraz, will Hunter do the honors to turn the lock?
I have no idea why it has taken FOUR YEARS to get the man indicted and put away.
Put it down to a failure of the justice system, I guess.
Failure of Biden's justice system? hahaha. I thought he was your man. A failure, indeed.
@AverageJoe1 saidBiden doesn't control judges.
You sound worked up like SHouse. So what do you think....will he do time!?!? If Kamala ushers him to Alcatraz, will Hunter do the honors to turn the lock?
Failure of Biden's justice system? hahaha. I thought he was your man. A failure, indeed.
@spruce112358 saidBut he appoints judges, little feller. Influencing long term direction.
Biden doesn't control judges.
@AverageJoe1 saidI'm bigger than you.
But he appoints judges, little feller. Influencing long term direction.
The justice system has gone sclerotic. It needs the equivalent of a quadruple-bypass to unblock itself. Plus roto-rooter.
@spruce112358 saidIt may need term limits, solely so that you libs will not have too much time to build up your hatred and contempt for judges that do not rule like you want them to. Just when you get ready to head to their house like you did Kavanaugh a while back, he will be replaced and you will not be able to hurt him.
I'm bigger than you.
The justice system has gone sclerotic. It needs the equivalent of a quadruple-bypass to unblock itself. Plus roto-rooter.
@AverageJoe1
You godda be kidding. TRUMP installed THREE ultrarightwingnuts on SCOTUS and if he wins he will make an offer those three can't refuse, retire with a nice nestegg so he can install other ultrarightwingnuts but 40 years younger like his pet Cannon, Judge Cannon who has sided with him time after time, she will be the first one on the list if he is reelected. Well, AFTER he deports 10 million people and totally fuuks up the US jobs market because there are not near enough workers to fill those jobs and then the 20% tariff both of which WILL tank the robust economy we have now, the LITERAL envy of the world.
Besides pardoning himself so he can find even MORE corruption pushing mounds of money his way.
@sonhouse saidTrump again? I am speaking generally of presidents with power to appoint judges. Biden happens to be there right now. I am not talking about Biden, and I SURE do wish you would quite harping Trump. Jesus.
@AverageJoe1
You godda be kidding. TRUMP installed THREE ultrarightwingnuts on SCOTUS and if he wins he will make an offer those three can't refuse, retire with a nice nestegg so he can install other ultrarightwingnuts but 40 years younger like his pet Cannon, Judge Cannon who has sided with him time after time, she will be the first one on the list if he is reelected. Well ...[text shortened]... rld.
Besides pardoning himself so he can find even MORE corruption pushing mounds of money his way.
At least we will all have different things to talk about in a few weeks. What do you think 'your side' will do if Trump wins? What do you think our side will do if he wins? Or if She wins.
I hope in any case that y'all do not physically hurt people. If it is 'go to the Capitol' thing, please just saunter in with flags and stuff and walk around, like we did on Jan 6.
@AverageJoe1
I am quite sure YOU don't want to talk about what Trump already said as to what he wants to do if by some freak accident of nature he gets *shudder* elected again.
If he does the fit will hit the shan,