@Mott-The-Hoople saidWhy were you upset so by Floyd dying from drug overdose?
Because of the motivation of the killer that you are trying to run from?
Why were you upset so by Floyd dying from drug overdose?
Liar,
it's all on video; and, the whole world saw it; like it or not, Floyd would not have died if he had not been restrained improperly (choked to Death).
I'm the son of a former Minneapolis Police officer of 30 years; the first 30 years of my life. That police station that they burned down in the George Floyd riot; the "Third precinct" it is the precinct my dad worked out of for the first 20 years of his police career.
There is much more to this murder that has not been released to the public in general. George Floyd and Derrick Chauvin were bouncers at the same, mostly Black night club 5 to 10 years earlier in Minneapolis MN. George Floyd bounced because of his size and strength; and Derrick Chauvin Bounced along side of him with his police uniform on; however, he was technically off duty as a police officer.
They hated each other.
George Floyd did not recognize Derrick Chauvin after 5 to 10 years passing, however, Derrick Chauvin recognized him.
In retaliation of the bad blood between the two, Chauvin went to far; simple as that.
God is a just God; and, YOU are a Liar.
@AverageJoe1 saidI think he should be convicted regardless of his reasons unless he has some legal defense.
Let me clean up my complicated question. A man is on his own property and hanging Trump signs everywhere, complying with subdivision covenants and city ordinances. We can agree on that premise. So someone comes, one person or five people, and kills him, for no apparent reason . Now, there may be a reason, what you are about to turn up, I do not want to dismiss your reall ...[text shortened]... victed to the full extent of the law.?
God, man, just say yes. No one will hold it against you.
@AverageJoe1 saidDo whatever you want but I won't bother to respond to further posts insisting I answer a question that I already have multiple times.
You answer nothing and I will write it again.
Yes, a person's employment and family are relevant factors in how a criminal case is adjudicated esp. when they are accused of a minor offense.
@no1marauder saidThank you. That was Rare. OK, we agree that someone who randomly shoots a man his yard should be convicted all other things not withstanding.
I think he should be convicted regardless of his reasons unless he has some legal defense.
So, I agree that we need to see what the findings are. Yes I did not read the whole story, and you might chastise me for that, but remember when you see a s story, it was written by some individual whom I do not know,
.. So all I can count on is the headline which I have to take 100% as true….”Trump guy shot in yard.”
I’m not too keen on what people write, I just see the highlights like many of the Posts here. Tell me the truth. How many Sunhouse posts do you read, bless him
@AverageJoe1 saidActually he wasn't shot, but beaten. He later died and they are apparently awaiting the Medical Examiner's findings to decide whether to charge the attacker with murder. The next court date is Wednesday so I expect we'll get some updates by then.
Thank you. That was Rare. OK, we agree that someone who randomly shoots a man his yard should be convicted all other things not withstanding.
So, I agree that we need to see what the findings are. Yes I did not read the whole story, and you might chastise me for that, but remember when you see a s story, it was written by some individual whom I do not know,
.. So al ...[text shortened]... ghts like many of the Posts here. Tell me the truth. How many Sunhouse posts do you read, bless him
@no1marauder saidYeah, so true, but you are charged with comparing a man who robs a 7/11 that has a family and a job, and an illegal alien immigrant invader** who has a family and a job. Everyone has written me back on PM and has asked me why you will not answer that question.
Do whatever you want but I won't bother to respond to further posts insisting I answer a question that I already have multiple times.
Yes, a person's employment and family are relevant factors in how a criminal case is adjudicated esp. when they are accused of a minor offense.
**hmmmmmm, I see a plethora of crime here, if you dig deep on this guy. Maybe worse crimes than the 7/11 cash register caper!
@AverageJoe1 saidSince you like hypotheticals, let's play:
Thank you. That was Rare. OK, we agree that someone who randomly shoots a man his yard should be convicted all other things not withstanding.
So, I agree that we need to see what the findings are. Yes I did not read the whole story, and you might chastise me for that, but remember when you see a s story, it was written by some individual whom I do not know,
.. So al ...[text shortened]... ghts like many of the Posts here. Tell me the truth. How many Sunhouse posts do you read, bless him
Say the attacker in this case did so because the victim had borrowed his lawn mower and didn't return it promptly.
Should he get a lesser, the same or a more serious sentence than if he attacked the victim because he had Trump posters prominently displayed on his property? Show your work and say WHY.
@no1marauder saidOh no, not tell me they will get away with manslaughter. Common sense will tell you if you beat a band, especially apparently as hard as he was beaten, you should expect that this “””might kill him.”””
Actually he wasn't shot, but beaten. He later died and they are apparently awaiting the Medical Examiner's findings to decide whether to charge the attacker with murder. The next court date is Wednesday so I expect we'll get some updates by then.
Exactly marauder. In my opinion, just as guilty of murder. We don’t know that he was not trying to kill him , intent to murder, followed by his death.
I would love to hear Shav on this.
@AverageJoe1 saidHe was arrested that day and charged with assault and other serious felonies but not with murder because the victim didn't die until three days later.
Oh no, not tell me they will get away with manslaughter. Common sense will tell you if you beat a band, especially apparently as hard as he was beaten, you should expect that this “””might kill him.”””
Exactly marauder. In my opinion, just as guilty of murder. We don’t know that he was not trying to kill him , intent to murder, followed by his death.
I would love to hear Shav on this.
I'm sure if the ME finds that the beating was the proximate cause of death, which seems highly likely, a murder charge will be added.
@no1marauder saidOh Lord, you introduce a separate issue about sentencing and motive. You're changing the subject. My point was about responsibility for a man's death, not ranking motives.
Since you like hypotheticals, let's play:
Say the attacker in this case did so because the victim had borrowed his lawn mower and didn't return it promptly.
Should he get a lesser, the same or a more serious sentence than if he attacked the victim because he had Trump posters prominently displayed on his property? Show your work and say WHY.
If someone brutally beats a man and that man dies from the beating, the attacker should be prosecuted for the death regardless of whether the motive was politics, a lawn mower, or an argument over a fence line. Give it up, you do this crap all the time. It is tiresome.
So the first question is simple: if a man beats someone to death, should he be convicted for the death he caused? Everything else comes afterwards. And he, the lawnmower was not a great example. You might say that he stole his car, there are remedies for that, but I don’t think any of your LexNexLex has anything about such punishment for stealing a car.
I don’t know who’s more difficult to read, you sorhouse I’m thinking it is you
Causation comes to mind, and responsibility comes to mind. Motive does not come to mine.
@AverageJoe1 saidI agree.
Oh Lord, you introduce a separate issue about sentencing and motive. You're changing the subject. My point was about responsibility for a man's death, not ranking motives.
If someone brutally beats a man and that man dies from the beating, the attacker should be prosecuted for the death regardless of whether the motive was politics, a lawn mower, or an argument over a ...[text shortened]... t is you
Causation comes to mind, and responsibility comes to mind. Motive does not come to mine.
Which makes this whole thread a waste of time, the fact that the victim was a Trump supporter is irrelevant yet that is why your right wing propaganda platforms are making a BFD out of it.
@AverageJoe1 saidI know, Trump Dissipation syndrome is really bad, his mind is really going, his mental powers are dissipating.
https://abcnews.com/US/southern-california-man-dies-after-beaten-trump-themed/story?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dhfacebook&utm_content=app.dashsocial.com/abcnews/library/media/[WORD TOO LONG] ...[text shortened]... get some current news for your files. I do not know the people that did it, so I am no help there.
@AverageJoe1 saidDid they have "tears in their eyes"?
Everyone has written me back on PM and has asked me why you will not answer that question.
@AverageJoe1 saidTDS usually only afflicts Republicans.
?
Sunhouse, hold onto your hat. This thread is not about Trump.
And you, inflicted with TDS, dare to mock TDS?!?!?!?!!!!
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They are the ones with an unrealistic view of Trump.
Everyone else knows who Trump is. We did in 2015 when he came down that escalator. We had no idea people would be stupid enough to vote for him. We all thought it would be like the last 3 or 4 times he talked about running and he would be laughed off the stage.