Trump to cancel HUNDREDS of auto-penned Executive Orders?

@AverageJoe1 said
This was a charity driven celebration, thus my need to have my name on the envelope..It was a check, not cash. Enough of that.

Sorry, your autopen comment seems to be incomplete i dont know what you mean. We were writing ABOUT the auto pen. You say if it is not about auto pen. Dont get your pardon revoked comment.

You wrote that autopen is fine if used as intended, but provide no explanation why Bidens was not used as intended. Please clarify.

@wildgrass said
You wrote that autopen is fine if used as intended, but provide no explanation why Bidens was not used as intended. Please clarify.

It was being used without his knowledge or consent by subordinates with their own agenda.
This has been admitted by at least one of them.

@wildgrass said
You wrote that autopen is fine if used as intended, but provide no explanation why Bidens was not used as intended. Please clarify.

Yes, we all agree that that is the open question, the crux of the investigation, if there ever is one. Trump ia putting out so many fires, as kamala would be, of course, that I worry he will not get to it. I m not after Biden, send him to Odin, but the improperly pardoned?? I would be after them.
Sorry to disappoint, but no one knows to date the extent of misuse. Guess we have to wait and see. Surely there was misuse, given all the other 'mis' stuff that was going on.

@Cliff-Mashburn said
It was being used without his knowledge or consent by subordinates with their own agenda.
This has been admitted by at least one of them.

Who?

@Cliff-Mashburn said
You're nuts, ain't NO underlings gonna use his autopen signature w/o his knowledge and not get destroyed by the Big D.

Lets see you prove that.

@AverageJoe1 said
For example, he asks here to comment on a taxpayer paying the council. He is correct, of course. That is not the issue.
He aint got it in him. I think he wants to comment on the morality of a few people in town, having their debts paid by the majority of the townsfolk.
He is just asking for it!!!!! Give it up marauder. What if there are 100 college students in ...[text shortened]... ke their millions.
You want to open this one up? Yu lost it last time. Simply to common sense.

That would be a really good idea for the town as advanced education is a positive externality. This might help you if your high school has an Economics course:

"Education as a positive externality refers to the beneficial effects that education has on society beyond the individual who receives the education. When individuals gain knowledge and skills through education, they contribute to increased productivity, civic engagement, and social cohesion, which benefit everyone in the community. This concept emphasizes that the advantages of education extend beyond private gains, creating a broader social value.

Education enhances workforce productivity by equipping individuals with the skills needed for various jobs, leading to overall economic growth.
A more educated population tends to engage more actively in civic activities, such as voting and community service, fostering a healthier democracy.
Investing in education can reduce crime rates as educated individuals often have better employment opportunities and lower likelihood of engaging in criminal behavior.
Positive externalities from education may lead to higher property values in communities with well-educated residents, benefiting homeowners and local businesses.
Governments may subsidize education or provide free schooling to encourage higher levels of education and maximize societal benefits from these positive externalities."

https://fiveable.me/key-terms/intermediate-microeconomic-theory/education-as-a-positive-externality

@no1marauder said
That would be a really good idea for the town as advanced education is a positive externality. This might help you if your high school has an Economics course:

"Education as a positive externality refers to the beneficial effects that education has on society beyond the individual who receives the education. When individuals gain knowledge and skills through education, ...[text shortened]...
https://fiveable.me/key-terms/intermediate-microeconomic-theory/education-as-a-positive-externality

Opf course, you are exaclly right, it is beneficial, and thank you for the research. YOu are not taht bad, I just have to take it to you on occasion as you lose issues.
Say a town like Yazoo MS has 28 highschool graduates, going to college......some made good grades, got scholarships, some saved money enough., with family savings, and some had to borrow money at the bank or federal programs.
They all wake up with the news that the council is going to pay off the tuition loans of the students in that 3rd group..
Jack's son, in that 1st group, not too miffed, though his taxes are paying the tuition of Bill's son with that tuition payment. Downer. Not fair
Bill's son worked hard and maded money while his friends.messed around and played all the way through highschool . Bill IS miffed, that he and his son are paying this precious money for college, while kids in the 3rd group have paid nothing, using borrowed funds that they will never have to pay back. Downer, not fair.
THE OTHER KIDS in town that did not go to college see all of this, mainly where the 3rd group paid nothing, and together, all the 28 kids go off to $100k jobs in NYC. Downer, real downer, and REAL not fair. The tax money of all the townsfolk paid for this, but only a scarce few will enjoy seeing the free tuition. Not fair.

Read your treatise till you are blue in the face. Education sure, but aren't Marxists into equality? This ain't. No way. There are at least 8 ways to look at this, like the kids in town who work ihn the brickyard that are not going to college. How bout we gie them THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WAS GIVEN TO LOSERS ON THEIR WAY TO COLLEGE? Well , why not? You can write some erudite answer, and after you do that , tell us why the oher kids cannot realize the same cash BENEFIT (your favorite word) that the losers got. That money would help a carpenter Open Up His Own Shop!!! Maye build the newly-rich guy's home. Or, are you saying, screw the kids that are left in the dust. One of them could not have gone off to college because he has to care for an ailing father with emphysema.


Must I win every argumentt.

@AverageJoe1 said
Opf course, you are exaclly right, it is beneficial, and thank you for the research. YOu are not taht bad, I just have to take it to you on occasion as you lose issues.
Say a town like Yazoo MS has 28 highschool graduates, going to college......some made good grades, got scholarships, some saved money enough., with family savings, and some had to borrow money at the ...[text shortened]... college because he has to care for an ailing father with emphysema.


Must I win every argumentt.

It's another obvious sign that you are a teenager, that you bluster about "winning arguments" on an internet discussion site. That's pathetic insecurity and immaturity at its worst.

A young person who goes on to an advanced education gives up years where they could be working and earning income - those who forego an advanced education incur no such disadvantage. And in our weird country, the sons and daughters of working and middle class parents, but not the wealthy, are then usually saddled with substantial amounts of college and grad school debt.

Recognizing that this situation is not only bad for them, but also reduces the positive externalities already mentioned is wise government policy. Those who did not have to incur such debt have no real argument based on "fairness"; they choose their path, other choose a different, generally more difficult one.

@no1marauder said
It's another obvious sign that you are a teenager, that you bluster about "winning arguments" on an internet discussion site. That's pathetic insecurity and immaturity at its worst.

A young person who goes on to an advanced education gives up years where they could be working and earning income - those who forego an advanced education incur no such disadvantage. And in ...[text shortened]... based on "fairness"; they choose their path, other choose a different, generally more difficult one.

Total horseshate in regard to my simple issue. Your high school graduate works as a laborer in Yazoo City, a fruitful future him, raising a healathy family withia ll the american dream........it is but a dream. Meanwhile, he sees his buddy Frank get a free college education, get rich.
So, we all know your are deep into the books on the benefits of education...I could have saved you the trouble with one paragraph, .....written by me. Education is a really good thing, yeah..Who Knew!!.
Now that being out of the way, how would Marauder feel if his son in he brickyard was hearing all about his buddies rocking and rolling at University of North Carolina, graduation day, and giong to the Job Fair for the highesg pahing jobs????



PS:" The nature of debating is to beat the other guy, we call it winning. Libs hate that concept, and that word............................frankly, it is offeeennnnnnnnnnnsive.
Arent you the guy who introduced the idea of 'everyone gets a trophy' at competitions??????????????????
Tell us what else would you call Muhammad Ali's beating Sonny Liston?

Is it Impossible for you to answer questions. You are a bot. weird.

@AverageJoe1 said
Total horseshate in regard to my simple issue. Your high school graduate works as a laborer in Yazoo City, a fruitful future him, raising a healathy family withia ll the american dream........it is but a dream. Meanwhile, he sees his buddy Frank get a free college education, get rich.
So, we all know your are deep into the books on the benefits of education...I coul ...[text shortened]... li's beating Sonny Liston?

Is it Impossible for you to answer questions. You are a bot. weird.

In your example, "my son" would have had the same opportunity as the people going to college. If he chooses to forego it, what is "unfair"?

It's a internet forum, not a heavyweight championship fight, junior. When you grow up a little bit, you'll understand how stupid and pathetic your claims that you are "winning" anything here are.

EDIT: BTW, what are you off-topic whining about in your own thread?

A) Tuition assistance programs; OR

B) Student debt forgiveness or income based repayment programs?

Your posts are so rambling and incoherent it's hard to tell.

@no1marauder said
In your example, "my son" would have had the same opportunity as the people going to college. If he chooses to forego it, what is "unfair"?

It's a internet forum, not a heavyweight championship fight, junior. When you grow up a little bit, you'll understand how stupid and pathetic your claims that you are "winning" anything here are.

EDIT: BTW, what are you off-topi ...[text shortened]... or income based repayment programs?

Your posts are so rambling and incoherent it's hard to tell.

OK. Let's say 'my housekeeper's son'....he would not have the same opportunities. Your argument is nil. I 'win',

A child's softball game is not a heavyweight fight., Maruader. You gonna tell your 9-year old daughter who scored all the runs that her team did not win? Sonouse, let this be the forum debate where you say that you lose.

@AverageJoe1 said
OK. Let's say 'my housekeeper's son'....he would not have the same opportunities. Your argument is nil. I 'win',

A child's softball game is not a heavyweight fight., Maruader. You gonna tell your 9-year old daughter who scored all the runs that her team did not win? Sonouse, let this be the forum debate where you say that you lose.

Pretty much anyone can get into some college in the US these days, so I'm not understanding your "point".

Unlike organized competitions with rules and an established way to determine winners and losers, this is a discussion board. So it's ridiculous for anyone to claim they've "won" anything without impartial judges and clear criteria. Individual braggadocio is not how success is decided.

You're about as far off as possible thinking I'm not competitive.

@no1marauder said
Pretty much anyone can get into some college in the US these days, so I'm not understanding your "point".

Unlike organized competitions with rules and an established way to determine winners and losers, this is a discussion board. So it's ridiculous for anyone to claim they've "won" anything without impartial judges and established criteria.

You're about as far off as possible thinking I'm not competitive.

hmmmm.....so, let's say pretty much....we can use 98% if you'd like....They can 'get into college.' Your skewed logic (based on marx) is leading you to surmise that EACH OF THESE STUDENTS would thus all get, qualify for, tuition loans,,,,,follow me here....and then your government would pay off the loans.

That means that you are saying that all of the students (98% of college age kids) can go to college at the expense of the government. This is the mantra of you and of Shavixmir.
Is that the real world today? I assume we are talking about the real world, not fantasy?

@AverageJoe1 said
hmmmm.....so, let's say pretty much....we can use 98% if you'd like....They can 'get into college.' Your skewed logic (based on marx) is leading you to surmise that EACH OF THESE STUDENTS would thus all get, qualify for, tuition loans,,,,,follow me here....and then your government would pay off the loans.

That means that you are saying that all of the students (98% o ...[text shortened]... xmir.
Is that the real world today? I assume we are talking about the real world, not fantasy?

You seem to keep forgetting that the loans weren't forgiven.

It would be nice if you would tell me what you are complaining about since I asked you. I still don't know if it's college tuition aid programs, which have been in place for many decades, the non-existent forgiveness of student loans or the limited income based repayment plans currently in place.

@no1marauder said
You seem to keep forgetting that the loans weren't forgiven.

It would be nice if you would tell me what you are complaining about since I asked you. I still don't know if it's college tuition aid programs, which have been in place for many decades, the non-existent forgiveness of student loans or the limited income based repayment plans currently in place.

No word games please. All the kids do not pay……………………..Right??
Who pays? (your answer, would necessarily have to take into consideration that there are maintenances of , and professors, to pay , not to mention field trips and other expenses in college..)