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    09 Jan '19 14:30
    @lundos said
    Of course, Trump waited until he could use the wall as a political talking point (again). While he know how to saber (gun) rattle and get people riled up no matter what he says, this must be their (those who made Trump run) backup plan - a combination of fear mongering and blame the other guy. And why not? It's been working for 20+ years.

    There's nothing the Democrats 'mus ...[text shortened]... Big Business?

    Trump is the swamp. Or evolved into something worse. A new type of swamp monster.
    Never heard of Drug Cartels?

    Since they bring in sooo much money and cannot be taxed, they rule the roost in terms of power and money in their part of the world. They have their own little armies and with great influence in governments around the world.
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    09 Jan '19 14:32
    @whodey said
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    I've heard rebuttals that most drugs come across ports of entry into the US and that the wall would do nothing about it.

    So if they know the drugs are there, then why don't they stop them? That makes zero sense to me. 300 American die every day and it's damn time for a change.

    IT"S TIME FOR THE WALL!
    They will dig under it.
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    09 Jan '19 14:40
    @whodey said
    Never heard of Drug Cartels?

    Since they bring in sooo much money and cannot be taxed, they rule the roost in terms of power and money in their part of the world. They have their own little armies and with great influence in governments around the world.
    Of course I have.

    Their part of the world aren't the US presidency.
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    09 Jan '19 16:181 edit
    @eye-of-horus said
    They know the drugs are there based on the law of averages. Not all vehicles will be searched so some drugs get through. You cant possibly search every vehicle.
    They dont know the drugs are there they just assume that not all can be caught.

    The wall would help i believe.
    If you watched the Tom Cruise movie, American Pilot, about Barry Seal, a TWA commercial pilot, who ends up flying drugs for the Medellin Cartel, while the CIA turn a blind eye.
    Before he was killed, because he turned DEA informer, Barry Seal made $1.3 million dollars per flight.

    The point is, drugs into America is an industrial scale activity. If you really believe the volume of drugs required to supply the commerical demand of that trade can be satisfied by stragglers hiding a package or two in a border crossing then I think your belief in the power of the individual needs some recalibration.
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    09 Jan '19 17:21
    @whodey said
    [youtube]KWcmZ8hozvU[/youtube]

    I've heard rebuttals that most drugs come across ports of entry into the US and that the wall would do nothing about it.

    So if they know the drugs are there, then why don't they stop them? That makes zero sense to me. 300 American die every day and it's damn time for a change.

    IT"S TIME FOR THE WALL!
    Educate people about the dangers of drugs, provide less harmful alternatives, and cut off the supply of legal opioids through pill mills.

    No opioid crisis in Western Europe at all. No walls either.
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    09 Jan '19 18:22
    @ponderable said
    German Democratic Republik?
    Israel?
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    09 Jan '19 18:23
    @whodey said
    Never heard of Drug Cartels?

    Since they bring in sooo much money and cannot be taxed, they rule the roost in terms of power and money in their part of the world. They have their own little armies and with great influence in governments around the world.
    And the CIA slush fund.
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    09 Jan '19 19:26
    @whodey said
    Well if it takes to long to search vehicles then shut it down!

    I have come to the realization that the US is at war with Mexico. Think about it, 300 people a day die from drug, 90% of which, come across the border. In one year, that is more people that died in Vietnam, or did you not care about them either?

    No, pretty much every American now knows someone personally wh ...[text shortened]... death penalty for anyone caught trying to smuggle drugs that are killing 300 people a day in the US.
    2nd amendment kills about 300 people a day.
    Is that what you are talking about ?

    Let's cut the crap.
    To a lot of people, the wall will keep out the brown skinned people.
    The criminals will find a way in.

    Sandy Hook, Las Vegas massacre and numerous mass shootings.
    No national emergency !!

    Trump's tough guy image on the line ?
    National emergency !!

    Pretty much sums it up.
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    09 Jan '19 19:29
    @whodey said
    All good points.

    Why did Trump wait for the Dims to take power, knowing that they could in no way do anything he wants due to the Trump hatred. In fact, politically, the MUST oppose everything he does to make sure that everything he does fails.

    My guess is that both parties are in the back pockets of the drug cartels. Trump knew that this issue is a winning issue be ...[text shortened]... ign where he can sit back and blame both parties. People will eat it up! Trump against the Swamp!
    What exactly is the swamp ?
    Someone please explain it !!
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    09 Jan '19 19:46
    @mghrn55 said
    What exactly is the swamp ?
    Someone please explain it !!
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_state_in_the_United_States
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    09 Jan '19 20:15
    @whodey said
    So let me get this straight, 300 people dying a day is not enough incentive to search every vehicle?

    What would be an incentive then?
    They DO stop the majority of the drugs coming in but stuff still gets through. Besides, the deaths are coming from our own drug industry no cartels.
    Opiods are the real death bringers and that is 100% American made, greed and lobbyists making sure laws allow near uncontrolled sales of opiods by bogus doctors and a fake pharm outfit next door, just go in, get your script, go next door and get a hundred pills. THAT is the real problem. But of course that doesn't help your buddy Trump and your position so you will undoubtedly just reject all that as fake news. BTW, the "4000'' terrorists coming into the country as Sanders said on Fox the other day, are coming in through airports and they get caught for the most part. So much for THAT lie, all of them coming from Mexico. Bullshyte.
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    09 Jan '19 23:17
    @eye-of-horus said
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    Hottest avatar ever.
    Its not you. You liar.
    #avatarlies
    Your eye is blind.
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    10 Jan '19 08:06
    @mghrn55 said
    What exactly is the swamp ?
    Someone please explain it !!
    Whodey never has gotten this right. Trump himself, his hangers-on, his toadies and supporters ARE the Swamp™.
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    10 Jan '19 08:11
    @ponderable said
    German Democratic Republik?
    Only in Berlin.
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    10 Jan '19 20:221 edit
    "It's funny how a big lie can make us all kids again"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=20&v=h1D2ynASqe4

    An episode of the 1950s western TV series 'Trackdown' featured a snake oil salesman named 'Trump' who promised to build a wall in order to prevent the end of the world.

    Rating

    True

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trackdown-trump-character-wall/

    "You're under arrest, Trump".
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