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-Removed-While that's true, Truss still kept pushing her disastrous tax policy even though her party dropped it. Truss still kept going on interviews claiming her economic policies were "the right thing to do".
I even started a thread asking why the hell she'd continue pushing this policy despite its unpopularity even with her own party. Though it wasn't implemented (and definitely wouldn't have been) Liz continuing to promote it was a stench to the public.
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@wildgrass saidOh, sweet summer child...
Propaganda does not work against accurate data.
"Vaccines cause autism!!!1iL!!!"
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@moonbus saidMoscow Mitch was neither a fool nor a coward. What he was, and still is, is a traitor.
One thing I will say in favor of Parliament vs. Congress: they can get an incompetent leader out more efficiently.
Mitch McConnell was a fool and a coward for not confirming Trump’s impeachment the first time and putting Pence in the Oval Office. McC must have known then that Trump was a loose cannon who could not be reigned in by “adults in the room.”
Hanlon's Razor does not apply to USA politics.
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@vivify saidI am relieved that conservatives in other countries are not so far gone tribal that they can recognize insanely bad policies (like the one that Trump did here in the US) and reject it.
While that's true, Truss still kept pushing her disastrous tax policy even though her party dropped it. Truss still kept going on interviews claiming her economic policies were "the right thing to do".
I even started a thread asking why the hell she'd continue pushing this policy despite its unpopularity even with her own party. Though it wasn't implemented (and definitely wouldn't have been) Liz continuing to promote it was a stench to the public.
Did you hear that Biden lowered Trump's deficits by a trillion dollars already?
The deficit increased every single year that Trump was in office. Conservatives in the US loved him for it. Absolutely insane.
EDIT: For those of you who don't think I'm an authority to say whether or not Trump and Truss economics are the same, there's a whole line of conservative talking heads who said exactly the same thing. Google "Larry Kudlow Truss"
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@metal-brain said"The deficit was $439 billion under President Barack Obama in 2015.... It rose to $666 billion in fiscal 2017, Trump’s first partial fiscal year in office; rose again to $779 billion in fiscal 2018; then rose once more to $984 billion in fiscal 2019 before the pandemic-related tripling in fiscal 2020. "
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https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/09/politics/fact-check-biden-deficit-reduction/index.html
No war.
No pandemic.
No recession/depression.
Just a $984 billion deficit.
@wildgrass saidso you dont know the difference between billion and trillion?
"The deficit was $439 billion under President Barack Obama in 2015.... It rose to $666 billion in fiscal 2017, Trump’s first partial fiscal year in office; rose again to $779 billion in fiscal 2018; then rose once more to $984 billion in fiscal 2019 before the pandemic-related tripling in fiscal 2020. "
No war.
No pandemic.
No recession/depression.
Just a $984 billion deficit.
@wildgrass said"Did you hear that Biden lowered Trump's deficits by a trillion dollars already?"
I am relieved that conservatives in other countries are not so far gone tribal that they can recognize insanely bad policies (like the one that Trump did here in the US) and reject it.
Did you hear that Biden lowered Trump's deficits by a trillion dollars already?
The deficit increased every single year that Trump was in office. Conservatives in the US loved him for i ...[text shortened]... hole line of conservative talking heads who said exactly the same thing. Google "Larry Kudlow Truss"
what exactly did he do?
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@mott-the-hoople saidVery little from what I gather. Which makes it all the more remarkable how Trump's administration actively, purposefully and aggressively expanded Federal spending programs, increasing the deficit every single year he was President.
"Did you hear that Biden lowered Trump's deficits by a trillion dollars already?"
what exactly did he do?
I don't want that. Why do you?
@shallow-blue saidI was born in July so....
Oh, sweet summer child...
"Vaccines cause autism!!!1iL!!!"
My 'yeah but still' reply to this is that anti vaxxers are not smart.
@mott-the-hoople saidLarry Kudlow on Fox Business 9/23/22: "The new British prime minister, Liz Truss, has laid out a terrific supply-side economic growth plan which looks a lot like the basic thrust of Kevin McCarthy's Commitment to America plan. Liz is operating a Reagan, Thatcher, Trump economic policy.”
so you dont know the difference between billion and trillion?
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@wildgrass saidExactly. 50% of people are intellectually below average, so your claim that (and I quote) "Propaganda does not work against accurate data" is rather too rose-tinted.
I was born in July so....
My 'yeah but still' reply to this is that anti vaxxers are not smart.
@shallow-blue saidPoint taken. I meant that more in the context of real debate that we don't get all too often anymore. The comparison between a propaganda-fueled argument and a fact-based argument requiring the individual to weigh both options, I still think the facts would win.
Exactly. 50% of people are intellectually below average, so your claim that (and I quote) "Propaganda does not work against accurate data" is rather too rose-tinted.
Is anyone watching the debates in the US politics. Ron desantis winning in the Florida poll for governor by 10 points but his opponent was wiping the floor with him during the debate. No one really cares.
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"I think the broader point holds though. She didn't have support because her ideas were dumb. But her ideas mirrored what US conservatives actually did here in the US. The same conservative ideas that were lauded and deified in the US were rightly rejected by British conservative folk."
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Not true my man, not true.
The economic plan executed by the conserves in America did not result in inflation.
Not the same plans then, in a major way