Go back
U.S. shelves eastern Europe missile shield plans

U.S. shelves eastern Europe missile shield plans

Debates

Vote Up
Vote Down

Presumably this is grim news for some weapons manufacturers and certain elements of the military brass, but isn't it a development that can have the rather rare distinction of uniting RHP's hawk, dove, left, right and moderate contingents on a foreign policy-cum-military strategy issue?

Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has welcomed as "positive" the US decision to shelve controversial missile defence bases in Poland and the Czech Republic.

Mr Medvedev said there were now "good conditions" for US-Russia talks on tackling missile proliferation.

US President Barack Obama had earlier announced there would be a shift in US missile defence strategy, following a review of the threat posed by Iran.


The rest is here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/americas/8262050.stm

1 edit
Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by FMF
Presumably this is grim news for some weapons manufacturers and certain elements of the military brass, but isn't it a development that can have the rather rare distinction of uniting RHP's hawk, dove, left, right and moderate contingents on a foreign policy-cum-military strategy issue?

[b]Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has welcomed as "positive" th ...[text shortened]... by Iran.


The rest is here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/americas/8262050.stm
[/b]
I don't see why the Russians need to feel threatened by the United States. We're not going to invade them or go to war with Russia any time soon. The events last year in Georgia and before that in Ukraine ought to have made that clear.

I don't know whether there's any strategic value against Iran in these missile defense systems. But, since the Russians are being so sensitive about it, I agree it's worth shelving just to avoid getting on the Russians' bad side. The last thing we need right now it to make an enemy of Russia.

Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by sh76
I don't see why the Russians need to feel threatened by the United States. We're not going to invade
Sure.
There's no reason, what-so-ever, for any nation to feel threatened by the good old US of A.

You're nothing but a friendly bunch of peace loving hippies...

Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by FMF
Presumably this is grim news for some weapons manufacturers and certain elements of the military brass, but isn't it a development that can have the rather rare distinction of uniting RHP's hawk, dove, left, right and moderate contingents on a foreign policy-cum-military strategy issue?

[b]Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has welcomed as "positive" th ...[text shortened]... d by Iran.


The rest is here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/americas/8262050.stm
I guess Russia might be persuaded not to sell rockets to Chavez then?

Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by sh76
I don't see why the Russians need to feel threatened by the United States. We're not going to invade them or go to war with Russia any time soon. The events last year in Georgia and before that in Ukraine ought to have made that clear.

I don't know whether there's any strategic value against Iran in these missile defense systems. But, since the Russians are ...[text shortened]... on the Russians' bad side. The last thing we need right now it to make an enemy of Russia.
maybe because the US has been sitting on their doorstep for decades with nuclear weapons and the one time Russia tried to get equality (Cuba) the 3rd World war was threatened. ... maybe?

Or the Russians are paranoid.

Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by wolfgang59
maybe because the US has been sitting on their doorstep for decades with nuclear weapons and the one time Russia tried to get equality (Cuba) the 3rd World war was threatened. ... maybe?

Or the Russians are paranoid.
Cold war's over, dude. This is not 1962.

1 edit
Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by FMF
Presumably this is grim news for some weapons manufacturers and certain elements of the military brass, but isn't it a development that can have the rather rare distinction of uniting RHP's hawk, dove, left, right and moderate contingents on a foreign policy-cum-military strategy issue?

[b]Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has welcomed as "positive" th ...[text shortened]... by Iran.


The rest is here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/americas/8262050.stm[/b]
It isn't.

Obama also said that this was done because a more efficient set of bases is being planned.

Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by sh76
Cold war's over, dude. This is not 1962.
Yes the Cold War is finished, but the Great Game rages on.

Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by sh76
Cold war's over, dude. This is not 1962.
The cold war made a lot of money for a lot of people. They would like to have it back.

Vote Up
Vote Down

The US could crush Russia and Russian leadership knows it. Even though Russia's economy is about the size of that of Mexico or Brazil, it does have military know-how. The US should continue to invest in know-how and technology... but less because of Russia and more because of China. Ideally none of this will be necessary. Much like bases with Chavez. Still, who is for not being prepared?

Vote Up
Vote Down

we sold out Poland, one of our few staunch allies.

Vote Up
Vote Down

Exactly 70 years to the day after Russia invaded Poland, Obama surrenders missile defense,how ironic.

Vote Up
Vote Down

Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by PinkFloyd
we sold out Poland, one of our few staunch allies.
How so?

btw, its not like the US depends on Poland.

Vote Up
Vote Down

Originally posted by generalissimo
How so?

btw, its not like the US depends on Poland.
we said we'd build missile sites in Poland and Czech., and Obama pu$$ied out.

Doesn't matter--even if we don't depend on them, they're our ally and the onus is on us to protect our allies.

Cookies help us deliver our Services. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Learn More.