@metal-brain saidWrong as usual. One can undermine government by releasing classified government documents to the public without authorization, which, though not a violent act, is nonetheless illegal.
Undermining government is perfectly legal in the USA as long as it is not done by violence and nothing about discord implies violence.
@soothfast saidThe NY Times and Washington post has released classified government documents to the public without authorization. Why the double standard?
Wrong as usual. One can undermine government by releasing classified government documents to the public without authorization, which, though not a violent act, is nonetheless illegal.
@shavixmir saidDiscord is not illegal in the USA. It is protected under the 1st amendment of the US constitution.
Learn to read, darling.
@mott-the-hoople saidYou gave that up on Jan. 6th.
and that is the problem, to hell with ours laws and living peacefully
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@metal-brain saidPutting your whataboutism aside, and ignoring the fact that once documents are out of the bag it's purely academic who decides to circulate them (because they're everywhere anyway), I will simply point out that the ones who steal such documents are usually prosecuted.
The NY Times and Washington post has released classified government documents to the public without authorization. Why the double standard?
As usual you refuse to own up to being wrong. You are, in fact, the greatest perpetrator of what you accuse others of doing: letting ego get in the way of accepting that you're wrong about something.
You are wrong. Done and done. Bye.
@soothfast saidOh, so only the first guy that lets the cat out of the bag is punished and anyone can after that. The UHURU movement did not steal any documents. If Assange was given documents someone else stole is he still doing something illegal because he is the first to publish those documents?
Putting your whataboutism aside, and ignoring the fact that once documents are out of the bag it's purely academic who decides to circulate them (because they're everywhere anyway), I will simply point out that the ones who steal such documents are usually prosecuted.
As usual you refuse to own up to being wrong. You are, in fact, the greatest perpetrator of what you ac ...[text shortened]... t in the way of accepting that you're wrong about something.
You are wrong. Done and done. Bye.
You are wrong.
@Soothfast
General Michael Flynn, who was arguably just doing his job when he contacted the Russian government after he was appointed Trump’s national security advisor, had his conversations with the Russian ambassador recorded and then leaked to the press. Releasing contents of phone calls between foreign ambassadors and the government is officials is far more damaging than anything released by Teixeira. Just for starters, it shows foreign governments around the world that Americans cannot exercise discretion. In his “System Update #70” on Rumble, Glenn Greenwald did a thorough analysis of why Gen. Flynn’s leaked transcript was so potentially damaging and, under other circumstances, could have led to jail time both for the leaker as well as the journalists publishing that information.
Why didn't the leaker get charged with a crime? Because government has double standards and a 2 tier justice system and it is obvious.
@soothfast saidThat is not the case here. Wrong thread.
Wrong as usual. One can undermine government by releasing classified government documents to the public without authorization, which, though not a violent act, is nonetheless illegal.
https://rumble.com/v2jcgl2-fbi-actually-arrested-black-socialists-over-russiagate-garbage.html
What did these African groups do that is illegal? Perhaps I should accuse my government of being racist. They are going after black people when they didn't do anything illegal.
@metal-brain saidHahaha
Nothing about that is illegal. There is no law prohibiting meeting Russians, even if it is to question the wisdom of US foreign policy. Undermining trust in American Democracy is perfectly legal and protected by the US constitution.
Seems to me this is an attempt to violate the constitution and turn our country into a police state. They want to throw dissenters in pr ...[text shortened]... does. They want you to hate Russia so you become more like Russia. Makes perfect sense to an idiot.
@metal-brain saidYou never answered JJs question in what sense are they being targeted?
Nothing about that is illegal. There is no law prohibiting meeting Russians, even if it is to question the wisdom of US foreign policy. Undermining trust in American Democracy is perfectly legal and protected by the US constitution.
Seems to me this is an attempt to violate the constitution and turn our country into a police state. They want to throw dissenters in pr ...[text shortened]... does. They want you to hate Russia so you become more like Russia. Makes perfect sense to an idiot.
Have they been thrown in jail? Fined? What?
The constitution specifically does not protect citizens from colluding with foreign governments to bring harm to the US.
@metal-brain saidYou miss the obvious, as usual.
Oh, so only the first guy that lets the cat out of the bag is punished and anyone can after that. The UHURU movement did not steal any documents. If Assange was given documents someone else stole is he still doing something illegal because he is the first to publish those documents?
You are wrong.
Once someone steals and disseminates classified documents, they are de facto no longer classified. The original thief is prosecuted, but there is no practical way to throw a dragnet over the entire country and put the genie back in the bottle.
@soothfast saidDaniel Ellsberg did the same thing.
You miss the obvious, as usual.
Once someone steals and disseminates classified documents, they are de facto no longer classified. The original thief is prosecuted, but there is no practical way to throw a dragnet over the entire country and put the genie back in the bottle.
https://apnews.com/article/julian-assange-daniel-ellsberg-archive-extradition-united-states-2fe79f6b7e3171b3865cdccc3ecce822
In January 1973, Ellsberg was charged under the Espionage Act of 1917 along with other charges of theft and conspiracy, carrying a total maximum sentence of 115 years. Because of governmental misconduct and illegal evidence-gathering, and the defense by Leonard Boudin and Harvard Law School professor Charles Nesson, Judge William Matthew Byrne Jr. dismissed all charges against Ellsberg in May 1973.
Why the double standard? Judge William Matthew Byrne Jr. dismissed all charges against Ellsberg.
@kevcvs57 saidBecause the documents do not say they broke any laws. Sowing discord is not illegal.
You never answered JJs question in what sense are they being targeted?
Have they been thrown in jail? Fined? What?
The constitution specifically does not protect citizens from colluding with foreign governments to bring harm to the US.
What harm?