UK: Misogyny May Be A Hate Crime

@earl-of-trumps said
Hating someone is not a crime.

The PC cabal would love to punish certain haters that are viewed as their political enemies, and one way
to do this is add extra time on to a crime if the perp is your political enemy.

Example: A] A BLM protester smashes your teeth in with a crowbar. Verdict: Mayhem, 5 years.

Example: B] A Bug-a-loo boi smashes a trans person's ...[text shortened]... h a crowbar. Verdict: Mayhem, 5 years + 5 years due to perceived hatred accompanied.

Make sense?

Hate crimes, unlike random acts of violence, perpetuate more widespread violence.

The Asians being attacked and killed aren't random acts of violence, they are targeted victims of hate. Random violence typically ends at the site it was carried out in; hate crimes spread. In your example, there will not be nationwide crowbar assaults; but violence against Asians are all over the country.

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Whites still haven't woken up. If they did, I wouldn't have to say that.

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Not at all.

I have already stated that I am not a believer in hate crimes. I think it's redundant.

I was just curious as to see if you would yuo consider the grooming rape gangs to have been committing hate crimes?

This is a thread about the UK, after all; surely, if we can bring up Bosnia as an example of potential hate crimes happening, we can also bring up another UK example.

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No.
It’s disgusting behaviour and any sane person would convict the bastards to imprisonment.

Hate crime sounds to me like “intent” without “action” is already punishable.

So, say I suggest that the reason my wife shouldn’t bring me a beer from the fridge during a football match is because if she did, it means her chain is too long.

There’s context: it’s a joke (a very old one at that).
There’s intent: to make people laugh.

There’s action: I don’t really have my wife chained to the kitchen (how could she change the bedsheets?). So actually no action.

There’s a hate crime: the intent can be interpretted as hate towards women (although the joke works equally well for gays or for women watching a home make-over show and wanting a wine).

So, without actual action, it’s already punishable.

I think that’s the issue with this proposed law.

@vivify said
Hate crimes, unlike random acts of violence, perpetuate more widespread violence.

The Asians being attacked and killed aren't random acts of violence, they are targeted victims of hate. Random violence typically ends at the site it was carried out in; hate crimes spread. In your example, there will not be nationwide crowbar assaults; but violence against Asians are all over the country.

your message has truthful assertions but they do not move me.

Let us not politicize the criminal justice system.

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This thread isn’t about anti-Asian violence.

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This thread is about the UK (attempting to) implement misogyny as a hate crime.

Not about your pro-Chinese agenda and propaganda.

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Note that Dutchess the Chinese propaganda tool doesn’t seem to be able to stick to a topic.

@earl-of-trumps said
your message has truthful assertions but they do not move me.

Let us not politicize the criminal justice system.

The U.S. justice system has always been politicized. That's the problem. The "war on drugs" during Reagan's administration is one example, which unfairly targeted and incarcerated blacks; same with Nixon's administration and so on.