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Gordon Brown has finally taken over from Tony Blair. I say bad to worse!

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Originally posted by princeoforange
Gordon Brown has finally taken over from Tony Blair. I say bad to worse!
You would.

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Originally posted by Bad wolf
You would.
Can we have some discussion on this issue please?

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Originally posted by princeoforange
Can we have some discussion on this issue please?
Who else would you have?

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Originally posted by ElleEffSeee
Who else would you have?
From the Labour party? Not really much to choose from there at all to be honest. I'm not quite sure. I think the ideal figure in British politics for a PM at the moment is William Hague, but thats not going to happen, at least not for a long time.

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Originally posted by princeoforange
From the Labour party? Not really much to choose from there at all to be honest. I'm not quite sure. I think the ideal figure in British politics for a PM at the moment is William Hague, but thats not going to happen, at least not for a long time.
My guess is (and I have a 10 quid bet on it) is that Hague will replace Cameron before the next election, the latter failing to hold his place through sheer inanity.

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Originally posted by Alcibiades
My guess is (and I have a 10 quid bet on it) is that Hague will replace Cameron before the next election, the latter failing to hold his place through sheer inanity.
That would be absolutely fantastic, given that the Conservatives are almost certain to win the next election. Unfortunately, I do not think it is likely because Cameron is a real vote winner!

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Originally posted by princeoforange
That would be absolutely fantastic, given that the Conservatives are almost certain to win the next election. Unfortunately, I do not think it is likely because Cameron is a real vote winner!
I wonder?

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Originally posted by Alcibiades
I wonder?
Given that he has a web site called "webcameron" I suspect not.

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Originally posted by Wheely
Given that he has a web site called "webcameron" I suspect not.
I am inclined to agree with you, except that Blair, a similar type of unprincipled opportunist, was described as Prime Minister of the UK for 10 years.

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Originally posted by princeoforange
Gordon Brown has finally taken over from Tony Blair. I say bad to worse!
does that affect your view on whether scotland should seek independance? what is the orange position on independance?
is orangism linked to loyalism?

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Originally posted by princeoforange
From the Labour party? Not really much to choose from there at all to be honest. I'm not quite sure. I think the ideal figure in British politics for a PM at the moment is William Hague, but thats not going to happen, at least not for a long time.
The same Hague who's already lost an election as leader? The same Hague who is complicit in the U-turning PR machine that is the new Conservative party that you don't like? Surely if he was a principled Conservative he'd be speaking out against Cameron's changing of the party?

What do you think he'd look like on the International front? He looks more like a cheeky cherub than a statesman IMO.

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Gordon Brown lacks charm. His Scottishness coupled with an SNP administration will could lead to a West Lothian Question crisis gripping the UK.

This country is a far better place now than it was 10 or 20 years ago. I will give Brown a chance but I fear he will tax heavily and spend too much on dodgy public service iniatives.

Its is a shame that the Lib Dems didn't take the olive branch offered to their peers.

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David Cameron is awful. An Old Etonian will never appeal to Middle England.

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Originally posted by eamon o
does that affect your view on whether scotland should seek independance? what is the orange position on independance?
is orangism linked to loyalism?
I am and always have been thoroughly opposed to independance and devolution in Scotland, England, Wales and Ulster. There should be one United Kingdom with one government. End of.