https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57260009
This is interesting.
The WHO research team found nothing to indicate that the virus came from a lab.
All research I’ve read about it indicates it was bat to animal to human transmission.
To quote from the BBC:
In March this year, the WHO issued a report written jointly with Chinese scientists on the origins of Covid-19, saying the chances of it having started in a lab were "extremely unlikely". The WHO acknowledged further study was needed.
Yet, to quote again from the BBC:
In a White House statement released on Wednesday, President Biden said he had asked for a report on the origins of Covid-19 after taking office, "including whether it emerged from human contact with an infected animal or from a laboratory accident".
On receiving it this month, he asked for "additional follow-up".
"As of today, the US Intelligence Community has coalesced around two likely scenarios but has not reached a definitive conclusion on this question," Mr Biden said.
"Here is their current position: 'While two elements in the IC leans toward the former scenario and one leans more toward the latter - each with low or moderate confidence - the majority of elements do not believe there is sufficient information to assess one to be more likely than the other.'"
So, this seems based on the US intelligence that 3 lab workers in Wuhan were sick in November.
I wonder where this is going.
Imagine, for a minute, that it did come from a lab. What does that say, for example, about the WHO research team? Or the Chinese ability to thwart a proper investigation?
Now, 2 out of the 3 US Intelligence branches (I believe Biden’s referring to branches, but God only really knows how the US IC is works) are in agreement with the WHO team’s findings.
So, that is still the most probable origin. Backed up by other reports as well.
Extra reading on the matter and origins:
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-55998157
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-55996728
Sorry they’re all from the Beeb, but I have little time today.
Yeah, I didn't know what to make of this.
I read that 3 lab workers had symptoms; but does that necessarily mean the virus originated in a lab? Could it be that the virus simply started spreading sooner than China let on, coincidently infecting lab workers? That seems much more likely. It is a global pandemic, after all.
@vivify saidAn obvious complication is that if Corona was discovered in December, it must have been circulating for months before. And people getting ill will have been thought to have been flu or something.
Yeah, I didn't know what to make of this.
I read that 3 lab workers had symptoms; but does that necessarily mean the virus originated in a lab? Could it be that the virus simply started spreading sooner that China let on, coincidently infecting lab worker? That seems much more likely. It is a global pandemic, after all.
And the lab workers probably live and shop and interact in the city where the lab is near.
So, even if they did contract corona in November, there’s still a high chance they caught it outside the lab.
Now, if nobody else had corona-like symptoms in November, then suddenly it becomes a lot more suspicious. But reports have shown that traffic around Wuhan hospitals was increasing from September onwards.
It has not been definitively proven where it has jumped to us from animals, when, historically, it has been very easy to prove the animal origins of SARS/MERS and similar viruses. Others are also saying that the nearest thing found in nature is significantly less advanced, particularly because of something with the furion surface (lol idk, just remembering from an article I read).
It seems likely that this could have come from a lab, and we definitely cannot rule out the fact that it came from an American lab and was a botched attack on China. (Not sarcastic.)
@philokalia saidEven Fauci said if gain of function research was done it was done in North Carolina. It may have come from an American lab,
It has not been definitively proven where it has jumped to us from animals, when, historically, it has been very easy to prove the animal origins of SARS/MERS and similar viruses. Others are also saying that the nearest thing found in nature is significantly less advanced, particularly because of something with the furion surface (lol idk, just remembering from an a ...[text shortened]... he fact that it came from an American lab and was a botched attack on China. (Not sarcastic.)
@shavixmir - said
Imagine, for a minute, that it did come from a lab. 1. What does that say, for example, about the WHO research team? 2. Or the Chinese ability to thwart a proper investigation?
A1. Tedros is *owned* by the CCP, but you knew that, right?
A2. See A1.
@metal-brain saidfacuci is not telling it like it is, it is hotly contested.
Even Fauci said if gain of function research was done it was done in North Carolina. It may have come from an American lab,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6D8bQs-E8A
EcoHealth ultimately received $3.7 million over six years from the NIH and distributed nearly $600,000 of that total to China’s Wuhan Institute of Virology, a collaborator on the project, pre-approved by NIH.
The grant cancellation came at a time when then-President Donald Trump and others questioned the U.S. funding to a lab in Wuhan, while exaggerating the amount of federal money involved.
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/05/the-wuhan-lab-and-the-gain-of-function-disagreement/
@averagejoe1 saidThe jury is still out but, yes, when Trump suspected it, he was - *all together now*, a RACIST
It is being reported now that Trump was right all along, that it is (was) a China virus, and all the naysayers are eating crow, knowing now that he was right.
Sorry Sonhouse.
@AverageJoe1
Bullshyte. There is a push to WANT to blame China, the virus coming from a lab so they can have another target of hate.
The truth is humans on the planet, NO humans here or anywhere else has the wherewithall to make a virus as specific as C19.
But of course that won't stop trolls like you from pushing the crap theories you find by OTHER trolls.
The post that was quoted here has been removedWay to miss the point: the intermediary virus has not been found at all in spite of how easily it has been found in previous instances of SARS-like viruses.
This is not definitive proof that it was manufacutred in an American or Chinese lab, but it is a reasonable point.