So in another thread I was sidetracked into this debate. Is the US mainsteam media Left wing or Right wing. My view is that it is hopelessly centrist, middle of the road and hence mainstream. Thier ideology is money and how to sell stories to the widest possible audience possible. The lowest common denominator is the side that they are on. Ask a liberal and they think the media is a bunch of evil conservatives, ask a republican and they will say the media is a bunch of left wing nutjobs. How can they both be right, who is delusional? It can only be that the media is in the center pandering to both sides.
Originally posted by StTitoFox news is neither fare nor balanced, NBC is owned by GE, ABC by Disney, both big corprate conservatives, CBS tends to lean left. As far as print media, they seem to be split down the middle,and radio is prodominately conservative
So in another thread I was sidetracked into this debate. Is the US mainsteam media Left wing or Right wing. My view is that it is hopelessly centrist, middle of the road and hence mainstream. Thier ideology is money and how to sell stories to the widest possible audience possible. The lowest common denominator is the side that they are on. Ask a liberal and t ...[text shortened]... ight, who is delusional? It can only be that the media is in the center pandering to both sides.
You both have expressed your opinion and welcome to them. I strongly suggest you consult the plethora of research that exists on this topic, to avoid espousing pure opinion and opening yourself to further embarrassment.
Each year or so, surveys are conducted by independent groups, such as Pew Research Center for The People & The Press, also by the Press themselves, to ascertain the “bias” situation in the press. At present it is roughly a 75/25 split favouring liberal. Please visit this website and smell the coffee.
http://www.mrc.org/biasbasics/biasbasics1.asp
(As information: I saw a report last week regarding GE’s continued sale of war materials to Iran which continues to supply armaments to terrorists in Iraq who are killing coalition troops and civilians. I see YOUR point --- very conservative of them! The flag waving zealots! hee hee)
Originally posted by MacSwainIt would, of course, be subject to the viewer's political views whether it's right or left wing.
You both have expressed your opinion and welcome to them. I strongly suggest you consult the plethora of research that exists on this topic, to avoid espousing pure opinion and opening yourself to further embarrassment.
Each year or so, surveys are conducted by independent groups, such as Pew Research Center for The People & The Press, also by the Pre ...[text shortened]... civilians. I see YOUR point --- very conservative of them! The flag waving zealots! hee hee)
Considering I find democrats and Labour right-wing, there's no way in hell I can view the US media being left-wing. Is there?
Originally posted by MacSwainyou are so hopelessly lost, I am sad for you😞
You both have expressed your opinion and welcome to them. I strongly suggest you consult the plethora of research that exists on this topic, to avoid espousing pure opinion and opening yourself to further embarrassment.
Each year or so, surveys are conducted by independent groups, such as Pew Research Center for The People & The Press, also by the Pre ...[text shortened]... civilians. I see YOUR point --- very conservative of them! The flag waving zealots! hee hee)
Originally posted by shavixmirYou miss the point. There are surveys of the reporters themselves which eliminates opinion & conjecture of others.
It would, of course, be subject to the viewer's political views whether it's right or left wing.
Considering I find democrats and Labour right-wing, there's no way in hell I can view the US media being left-wing. Is there?
It is easy to find survey's taken of the reporters themselves. When you ask a reporter if he is liberal or conservative would you not agree that removes any conjecture. Unless you're making the point reporters are in error of their own leaning?
As example: Kenneth Walsh (US News & World Report) White House reporter, polled fellow White House reporters as to how they voted and the result was 50 Dem (liberal) and 7 Repub(conservative). This would remove, as you put it, "subject to the viewers political views".
Originally posted by duecerOoooh I see your point. If I do not read any research on a topic and avoid any data that would be opposed to my personal “feelings” which are based solely on emotion, then I could be as enlightened as you.
you are so hopelessly lost, I am sad for you😞
Good point, I will consider it. Finished now. No thanks.
Originally posted by StTitoIts like asking if society is conservative or liberal. Really it depends on the slant of the reporter and/or news agency from which you are recieving your news. The important thing to remember is that EVERYONE has a bias so don't be duped into thinking that any news source is 100% objective. Personally I like news reporters who give their opinions as well as reporting the news. Really it is only being honest because they report the news the way they see it and don't play games regarding their bias.
So in another thread I was sidetracked into this debate. Is the US mainsteam media Left wing or Right wing. My view is that it is hopelessly centrist, middle of the road and hence mainstream. Thier ideology is money and how to sell stories to the widest possible audience possible. The lowest common denominator is the side that they are on. Ask a liberal and t ...[text shortened]... ight, who is delusional? It can only be that the media is in the center pandering to both sides.
1- Thread title: US Media Left or Right
2- Everyone has an opinion (probably wrong)
* we all agree to this point
3- I am saying FORGET OPINIONS!!!! - yours mine or anyone else
4- Go to sites that give results of what the reporters say they themselves personally are. They aren't answering about others or the entire vocation...just themselves.
5- Then you have the truthful answer
6- Then futher discussion here is redundant.
Whew!!! Arrgh!!
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterMacswain is saying most reporters are democrats so therefore the media is mostly democrats.
I'll settle this once and for all:
http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=1208
EDIT: Wait -- there's more:
http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=218
So, if you put out a study by a right wing group (ncpa) then by macswains logic the report is going to favour the right wing opinion.
So therefore, we cannot accept a report from a right wing group as a non biased report.
EDIT: Funny enough though, er maybe not so funny, is that MacSwains website is ALSO from a right wing group. So, hmm, guess we can't take their study at face value either! Dam...sux when your own logic hits you back in the face.😛
Originally posted by MacSwainThat webpage has too many grammar and spelling mistakes to be taken serious. Most of the claims are not supported either. It's so bad, in some sections I couldn't even understand what the sentence meant!
You both have expressed your opinion and welcome to them. I strongly suggest you consult the plethora of research that exists on this topic, to avoid espousing pure opinion and opening yourself to further embarrassment.
Each year or so, surveys are conducted by independent groups, such as Pew Research Center for The People & The Press, also by the Pre ...[text shortened]... visit this website and smell the coffee.
http://www.mrc.org/biasbasics/biasbasics1.asp
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There is NO WAY anyone can take this website seriously. I thought it was a joke website when i first read it.
Come on man, if you are going to post weblinks, you should find better websites to back up your claims. This website is just amateur hour. Even DSR wouldn't post this site.
Originally posted by StTitoBasically depending on where the person is that is asking that
So in another thread I was sidetracked into this debate. Is the US mainsteam media Left wing or Right wing. My view is that it is hopelessly centrist, middle of the road and hence mainstream. Thier ideology is money and how to sell stories to the widest possible audience possible. The lowest common denominator is the side that they are on. Ask a liberal and t ...[text shortened]... ight, who is delusional? It can only be that the media is in the center pandering to both sides.
question the 'left or right' will depend on them. If you had a
balance or fair way of judging the media or yourself you'd get
a better understanding of where the media and yourself are.
In other words what is left, what is right, and where are we when
we look at every one else.
Kelly
Originally posted by uzlessEl wrongo amigo! You posted "Macswain is saying most reporters are democrats" which is absolutely false.
Macswain is saying most reporters are democrats so therefore the media is mostly democrats.
So, if you put out a study by a right wing group (ncpa) then by macswains logic the report is going to favour the right wing opinion.
So therefore, we cannot accept a report from a right wing group as a non biased report.
EDIT: Funny enough though, er maybe n ...[text shortened]... e their study at face value either! Dam...sux when your own logic hits you back in the face.😛
MacSwain has not "said" anything about his opinion on reporter bias but asked everyone to read surveys of reporters that report a liberal bias. If you think I have - copy and paste it. I will be waiting.
right wingers say there's a "liberal" media bias,
left wingers say there's a "corporate" media bias,
and no one trusts the media for exactly opposite reasons.
I'm in the second camp, and the corporate bias appears pretty clearly to me...
from what I see, the US media doesn't like to criticise the govt. News and pundit debate is framed to exclude truely "liberal" viewpoints, and so there is censorship by ommission. something to keep in mind: all the news we get through "mainstream" sources is paid for by corporate advertising.