Originally posted by MacSwainUS News and World report is a conservative news organization. how can I trust he is telling the truth?
You miss the point. There are surveys of the reporters themselves which eliminates opinion & conjecture of others.
It is easy to find survey's taken of the reporters themselves. When you ask a reporter if he is liberal or conservative would you not agree that removes any conjecture. Unless you're making the point reporters are in error of their own lean ...[text shortened]... (conservative). This would remove, as you put it, "subject to the viewers political views".
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Originally posted by uzlessYou are such a pompous snollygoster. You are much, much too easy. In future, you should avoid throwing stones. 🙄
That webpage has too many grammar and spelling mistakes to be taken serious. Most of the claims are not supported either. It's so bad, in some sections I couldn't even understand what the sentence meant!
There is NO WAY anyone can take this website seriously. I thought it was a joke website when i first read it.
Come on man, if you are going to post we ...[text shortened]... back up your claims. This website is just amateur hour. Even DSR wouldn't post this site.
“That webpage has too many grammar and spelling mistakes to be taken serious.”
should be “seriously” -- (serious is an adj. – seriously is an adverb)
Most of the claims are not supported either. It's so bad, in some sections I couldn't even understand what the sentence meant!
When the comma is separating two complete but unrelated sentences, replace the comma with a semi-colon. ie: It's so bad; In some sections......
There is NO WAY anyone can take this website seriously. I thought it was a joke website when i first read it.
Capitalise the letter “i” when used as a personal pronoun.
Originally posted by MacSwainThat's a terrible way to do research. Opinion surveys are next to worthless since there isn't a clear mapping from a reporter's political leanings and the bias of their reports. Furthermore, there is no objective metric for comparison. One journalist's sense of liberal could be quite different from anothers. Two journalists may claim to have the same political sympathies when in fact they are quite different.
You miss the point. There are surveys of the reporters themselves which eliminates opinion & conjecture of others.
It is easy to find survey's taken of the reporters themselves. When you ask a reporter if he is liberal or conservative would you not agree that removes any conjecture. Unless you're making the point reporters are in error of their own lean ...[text shortened]... (conservative). This would remove, as you put it, "subject to the viewers political views".
Basically, all an opinion survey like the you cite can tell us is that approximately 75% of journalists surveyed self-identify as liberal. Stating that media reports are left-biased based on this survey information is a gross extrapolation from the data and relies on weak (or at least untested) assumptions.
Originally posted by KellyJayThis could why some people are so dead set against Fox, not because
Basically depending on where the person is that is asking that
question the 'left or right' will depend on them. If you had a
balance or fair way of judging the media or yourself you'd get
a better understanding of where the media and yourself are.
In other words what is left, what is right, and where are we when
we look at every one else.
Kelly
Fox is right leaning, but because they are so left leaning.
Kelly
Originally posted by telerion🙂 I am right leaning and see Fox as much more balanced than
Only partial credit KJ since you missed the obvious reversal.
a lot of other people give them credit for, but I hear the same
thing from those that defend CBS, CNN, ABC, and NBC as they
are some how balanced when I see them as completely left
leaning more times than not.
Kelly
Surveys of reporters' political leanings can be misleading, since the reporters are often not solely responsible for the news content. They're given the assignments, and their stories are frequently edited and framed by people higher up in the corporate news organization. The corporate culture of the mainstream media can have just as much influence, if not moreso, on the content of the news than the biases of the individual reporters.
Originally posted by MacSwainug, let me wade through your obfuscations for everyone....again.
El wrongo amigo! You posted "Macswain is saying most reporters are democrats" which is absolutely false.
MacSwain has not "said" anything about his [b]opinion on reporter bias but asked everyone to read surveys of reporters that report a liberal bias. If you think I have - copy and paste it. I will be waiting.[/b]
"When you ask a reporter if he is liberal or conservative would you not agree that removes any conjecture?"
"Each year or so, surveys are conducted ...to ascertain the “bias” situation in the press. At present it is roughly a 75/25 split favouring liberal"
You appear to be taking your opinion from the article that states the following,
"A 2004 poll by the Pew Research Center for The People & The Press found five times more journalists described themselves as “liberal” as said they were “conservative"
As I said, when you go through these "stats" , too many of them have been manipulated for the site to be taken seriously. Bad choice of reference.
Originally posted by uzlessI don't see that as completely removing all doubt because some
ug, let me wade through your obfuscations for everyone....again.
"When you ask a reporter if he is liberal or conservative would you not agree that removes any conjecture?"
"Each year or so, surveys are conducted ...to ascertain the “bias” situation in the press. At present it is roughly a 75/25 split favouring liberal"
You appear to be taking your ...[text shortened]... hem have been manipulated for the site to be taken seriously. Bad choice of reference.
people I know who I think are completely left leaning think of them
selves as moderate or middle of the road. Which is why I said you
really need a means to judge each person equally since personal
views can be left or right leaning and the one holding those views
really not grasp that depending on how they view themselves.
Kelly
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Originally posted by MacSwainOH MY FRICKIN GOD MACSWAIN....use your god damned head for ONCE. Please! In a rare moment of lucidity and clarity I will state for the record you sir, today, are the biggest frickin idiot i have ever met online.
You are such a pompous snollygoster. You are much, much too easy. In future, you should avoid throwing stones. 🙄
“That webpage has too many grammar and spelling mistakes to be taken [b]serious.”
should be “seriously” -- (serious is an adj. – seriously is an adverb)
Most of the claims are not supported either. It's so bad, in s i first read it.
Capitalise the letter “i” when used as a personal pronoun.[/b]
Do you not know the difference between comments in a frickin chess thread vs A PROFESSIONAL WEBSITE STATING "FACTS" THAT PUSHES A POLITICAL AGENDA???????
Jebus Christ dude. You can't possibly expect the same level of professionalism from a frickin chess thread (with no spell check) vs a fully funded organization!
My god dude...you are the wackiest wacko of them all. Next time you post something, anything, do yourself a favour and turn the computer off before you embarass yourself.
Now, go back through this post, read it again, make note of any spelling mistakes and then go to bed. Moron.
You want to de-bate something...go fishing 😞
Originally posted by uzlessMerely making the point - the websites grammar could have been impeccable and your exhibition of faultly use of grammar probably made you perceive the correct as incorrect.😲
OH MY FRICKIN GOD MACSWAIN....use your god damned head for ONCE. Please! In a rare moment of lucidity and clarity I will state for the record you sir, today, are the biggest frickin idiot i have ever met online.
Do you not know the difference between comments in a frickin chess thread vs A PROFESSIONAL WEBSITE STATING "FACTS" THAT PUSHES A POLITICAL AGE ...[text shortened]... lling mistakes and then go to bed. Moron.
You want to de-bate something...go fishing 😞
How's your blood pressure? Lie down and apply a cool compress to your forehead. 😀 You continue to be the best entertainment on this site...please, never leave. roflmao
So I guess that should have been no surprise. Does anybody see the irony here? I am not saying that the media is unbiased, fair or balanced in any way, but it obvious that if both sides distrust it so much it must be pandering to both. It is humorous that each side goes to ther comfortable biased source to prove thier point. Its money with dems and repubs both representing the rich. Look, I do not claim to be fair and blanced myself, I'm a devils advocate at best. I just thought this was a more obvious statement.
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Uzless...oh Uzless...hello..are you there? I am reposting my previous request. Please feel free to cut and paste from my post that proves your accusation.
El wrongo amigo! You posted "Macswain is saying most reporters are democrats" which is absolutely false.
MacSwain has not "said" anything about his personal opinion on reporter bias, only asked everyone to read surveys of reporters that report a liberal bias. If you think I have - copy and paste it. I will be waiting to see it.😏
Originally posted by uzlessPlease wrap your head in duct tape to prevent further loss of brain tissue. I'm going fishing.
OH MY FRICKIN GOD MACSWAIN....use your god damned head for ONCE. Please! In a rare moment of lucidity and clarity I will state for the record you sir, today, are the biggest frickin idiot i have ever met online.
Do you not know the difference between comments in a frickin chess thread vs A PROFESSIONAL WEBSITE STATING "FACTS" THAT PUSHES A POLITICAL AGE ...[text shortened]... lling mistakes and then go to bed. Moron.
You want to de-bate something...go fishing 😞
G.
Originally posted by MacSwainNo. You miss the point, my friend.
You miss the point. There are surveys of the reporters themselves which eliminates opinion & conjecture of others.
It is easy to find survey's taken of the reporters themselves. When you ask a reporter if he is liberal or conservative would you not agree that removes any conjecture. Unless you're making the point reporters are in error of their own lean ...[text shortened]... (conservative). This would remove, as you put it, "subject to the viewers political views".
I don't care whether a reporter thinks he's liberal, conservative or socialist. Most of them are to the right of me. So is there reporting.