Originally posted by mchillYou mean establihment conservatives who work to funnel tax dollars into private companies.
I know Liberal bashing is fun, but Conservatives are little different. Conservatives want to privatize everything, while keeping the present structure in place.
Establisment types conservative or liberal are the problem.
Originally posted by EladarAs mentioned, education is mandatory in Finland until 16 years of age.
I am glad you see my point. In the US that is exactly what the government tries to do. Of course those kids have no interest in it so they disrupt classes they don't want to take but are forced into.
Those same kids get tested and our ranking suffers.
Originally posted by KazetNagorraAs mentioned the US stupidly treats all kids the same and expects all kids to graduate secondary academic schools at 18. All students are expected to be ready for college upon graduation
As mentioned, education is mandatory in Finland until 16 years of age.
Of course this model is an utter failure.
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Originally posted by EladarThe UK has similarities to both Finland and the US. Standard Education is up to 16, however between 16 and 18 some form of education is mandatory, there is a large range of options between academic, vocational courses and apprenticeships.
Does any other country in the world attempt to teach all students college bound curriculum through the age 18?
16-18 mandatory education began in 2013 before that the it was 16. Some people argue that the raising of the age bracket was a cynical way of reducing the unemployment statistics.
Originally posted by stellspalfieIt is really the right way to go, to have different options.
The UK has similarities to both Finland and the US. Standard Education is up to 16, however between 16 and 18 some form of education is mandatory, there is a large range of options between academic, vocational courses and apprenticeships.
16-18 mandatory education began in 2013 before that the it was 16. Some people argue that the raising of the age bracket was a cynical way of reducing the unemployment statistics.
Does the UK require application and acceptance to academic schooling after 16?
In Oklahoma we offer vocational education, 16-18, but only to kids with high enough academic achievement. If their academic achievement isn't high enough for vocational they get put into college prep classes.
Originally posted by EladarMy country (Zambia) is one where there simply aren't enough schools (its a poor country) so not everyone can make it to grade 12 and there is intense competition. I don't know the current stats, but when I was younger, a larger percentage got kicked out at grades 7 and 9. The same applied in university. Competition to get in, and the first year was like A levels after which about half are kicked out.
Is your country more like the US system where everyone is moved through the system until they are 18? Or is your country more like Finland that reqires some sort of academic competence before entering secondary education?
Some people didn't attend university because of the costs. The government paid tuition and some allowances, but it was still too costly for some.
I support a system where anyone who wants to can get an education. Of course with the advent of the internet, education opportunities are opening up.
Originally posted by EladarHere in South Africa, students that don't meet the requirements are held back and must repeat the year.
As mentioned the US stupidly treats all kids the same and expects all kids to graduate secondary academic schools at 18. All students are expected to be ready for college upon graduation.
Originally posted by twhiteheadIn the US it is common practice to move kids along if they learn or not. It is called social promotion. If they are held back once they are not longer allowed to be held back.
Here in South Africa, students that don't meet the requirements are held back and must repeat the year.